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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:18 PM ET
This is the thing. There aren't gonna be number 1 Dmen bought out. There be no UFAs. No drafted players ready to take on that role.
- dingo8urbaby


Not sure what to tell you. Obviously there is a plan. Last summers blueprints were a masterpiece.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:18 PM ET
But he has in the past. My concerns with the team are that they need to be a harder team to play against. They need to be much better as a team defensively. And they need to improve the mobility and puck skills of the defense. Adding a top scoring Winger would be great. But those other issues should be addressed first. If they are, and they can swing a deal for someone like Ryan. That's great.
- MJL

I could easily be wrong but if we wanna keep these young guys, I don't see it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:19 PM ET
You can bet they are, but a lot is going to shake out this weekend and then again I believe on the 5th. That's one reason I like the Streit signing. He gives the Flyers another asset without losing much as far as assets go. So

Timo-Mez-Streit-Gus
Schenn-Coburn-Grossman

That puts Gervais and Lauridsen at options 8 and 9.

No need for the Foster/Walker/Huskins.

- jstross


That's not a bad defense, if utilized properly...now will Laviolette do that or try to shoehorn it all into his "system"
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:19 PM ET
What is there, and what is there to like?

- MJL

pass!
next epistemology....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:19 PM ET
Not sure what to tell you. Obviously there is a plan. Last summers blueprints were a masterpiece.
- PLindbergh31



A plan is usually for the long term. One off season does not encompass an entire plan of building a team. One off season where things don't go according to plan, doesn't doom a team forever.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:20 PM ET
pass!
next epistemology....

- isaiah520


Can't help you there!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:20 PM ET
It's comparable. They have better youth on D for sure.
- cmr.266

Yes on D but that's it. We have the forwards by a good margin and we actually have a young goalie as they do not. It makes me realize that I'd be 100% for a trade with BSchenn for a great young Dman. BSchenn + for a Brodin or a Hamilton type guy. I'd be all for that.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:22 PM ET
sorry to nitpick
- flyerscup2011

Not a problem. I don't get mad
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:22 PM ET
That's not a bad defense, if utilized properly...now will Laviolette do that or try to shoehorn it all into his "system"
- Jsaquella


if they keep the same system they used down the stretch (by stretch i mean the games they pissed me off royally by winning once they were eliminated), things might be lookin up
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:23 PM ET
Not a problem. I don't get mad
- griouxmvp2012


respect
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:24 PM ET
Homer didn't get it done last Summer no two ways about it. I know you don't like Streit, but his skill set was needed. Let's see what happens over the weekend.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:26 PM ET
respect
- flyerscup2011

Most def
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:26 PM ET
You can bet they are, but a lot is going to shake out this weekend and then again I believe on the 5th. That's one reason I like the Streit signing. He gives the Flyers another asset without losing much as far as assets go. So

Timo-Mez-Streit-Gus
Schenn-Coburn-Grossman

That puts Gervais and Lauridsen at options 8 and 9.

No need for the Foster/Walker/Huskins.

- jstross

Timonen is starting to look human from a health stand point. Meszaros might as well be a floating head. Streit isn't a great defender and Grossman has question marks too. Gervais just sucks.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:26 PM ET
Homer didn't get it done last Summer no two ways about it. I know you don't like Streit, but his skill set was needed. Let's see what happens over the weekend.
- jstross


i can't wait til sunday
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:27 PM ET
if they keep the same system they used down the stretch (by stretch i mean the games they pissed me off royally by winning once they were eliminated), things might be lookin up
- flyerscup2011


Agreed. They went 11-5 over their last 16 games, beating 9 playoff teams during that stretch, with a defense of Gustafsson, Laurdisen, a half crippled Timonen, Huskins, Gervais and whatever other pieces they could scrape up.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:27 PM ET
That's not a bad defense, if utilized properly...now will Laviolette do that or try to shoehorn it all into his "system"
- Jsaquella


It's not a bad defense at all if Lavy uses them right and has his forwards help out on defense. Especially with a goalie that can start things up ice instead of a statue.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:28 PM ET
Timonen is starting to look human from a health stand point. Meszaros might as well be a floating head. Streit isn't a great defender and Grossman has question marks too. Gervais just sucks.
- dingo8urbaby


kimmo will be used more sparingly this year, mez might be gone, streit is a good puck mover and we needed badly to replace carle, gervais is not bad for a 6th dman. let's be cautiously optimistic and see where this "wild ride" goes. #excited
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
kimmo will be used more sparingly this year, mez might be gone, streit is a good puck mover and we needed badly to replace carle, gervais is not bad for a 6th dman. let's be cautiously optimistic and see where this "wild ride" goes. #excited
- flyerscup2011


Timonen is still going to play over 20 minutes a game. Gervais is likely going to be the 7th defenseman. If not sent to the Phantoms.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m

Compliance buyout window is now open BUT no buyout can occur until: a) player is put on waivers; b) player clears waivers 24 hrs later.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
Agreed. They went 11-5 over their last 16 games, beating 9 playoff teams during that stretch, with a defense of Gustafsson, Laurdisen, a half crippled Timonen, Huskins, Gervais and whatever other pieces they could scrape up.
- Jsaquella


FWIW i take the stretch run with a grain of salt. the conspiracy theorist in me thinks teams let us win b/c they knew if we drafted in the top 5 we'd be TROUBLE and we did face a good few b/u goalies
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
i can't wait til sunday
- flyerscup2011

Yea should be interesting as should the next few days leading up to it I'm kinda glad ill be off to see it but for bad reason it will keep me busy tho
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
Timonen is still going to play over 20 minutes a game. Gervais is likely going to be the 7th defenseman. If not sent to the Phantoms.
- MJL


i don't know if i like the idea of kimmo playing that much every night... until the playoffs atleast.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
kimmo will be used more sparingly this year, mez might be gone, streit is a good puck mover and we needed badly to replace carle, gervais is horrible at everything he does and should be playing in a beer league. let's be cautiously optimistic and see where this "wild ride" goes. #excited
- flyerscup2011

Fixed for you
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
i don't know if i like the idea of kimmo playing that much every night... until the playoffs atleast.
- flyerscup2011


Well, it's going to happen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
Fixed for you
- JAKEw1234


Gervais used properly is a serviceable player.
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