Trust me, I hear you -- I crunched some numbers, thought really hard about if Florida, because they're a cap floor team, might actually not be opposed, in theory, of taking the contract on because no matter what they do, they're going to struggle to be at the floor. Maybe they wouldn't care about carrying a charge but not a player, if that's the money they need to reach the floor.

But I always looped back to this: There's enough long-term contracts out there in the league where you can do that and actually still have the player.

For instance, maybe seven years from now, Jeff Carter's slowed down but is still playing, at age 35. And he wants to get a couple more years in, but no longer fits in LA's plans at that salary. That's not unthinkable, right?

Well, if you're Florida, you could just say, "Hey, LA. Let us have that contract. We'll keep Jeff Carter, put him on the ice for PPs and offensive zone draws, keep his minutes at about 10-12 per game. He still wants to play, but he isn't a Top 6 forward anymore and you want to use that salary on someone who is. You can't do that while paying him the cap charge he has, but we can. It's a win-win for us both."
- AllInForFlyers

Understood. Like you, i think he will be a CBO . if I'm homer I consider trading mez for lu + $500k cap and see what Vancouver says. (Lu would have a $4.833 aav). Then I'm pretty much done for the off season.

do you think Anaheim would do Coburn, Read and next years 1st for Ryan?
- flyersfan51

Why trade next year's first when it will be in Philly?

Why trade next year's first when it will be in Philly?
- youarewrong

oh yeah, duh! oops

For Bill or anyone who Knows the new CBA rule.

What about Vancouver retaining part of the contract ????

I thought under the new CBA teams could trade some of the cap space? what if Van agreed to take 1/3 of the salary ????
that would make his salary ...or cap hit only just north or 3.5 million.

now vancouver ownership would be happy...because they don't have too pay the 2/3 of the buyout #....then perhaps there could be a hockey trade....in there as well.
- landros 2

But as Bill said, why would Loungo do this? He has a NTC. If he refuses to waive then he gets 2/3's of his current contract for doing absolutely nothing. Plus he can sign a new contract that makes up that money, for a shorter time frame.

So he will be able to make more money, and play fewer year (if he wants to retire) if he gets bought out.

The only think Loungo has to worry about is if Vancouver decides to hold onto him for 1 more year and use the buy-out next year instead.

Understood. Like you, i think he will be a CBO . if I'm homer I consider trading mez for lu + $500k cap and see what Vancouver says. (Lu would have a $4.833 aav). Then I'm pretty much done for the off season.
- moylander

For 8 more years?!?!? Didn't we just get rid of 9 year contract? Paying him 5 mil a season is absurd. I would like to think we'd be able to get a 3rd rounder for Mez, second tops, but thats a stretch.

Why trade next year's first when it will be in Philly?
- youarewrong

They should try to get the first of next year's first

But as Bill said, why would Loungo do this? He has a NTC. If he refuses to waive then he gets 2/3's of his current contract for doing absolutely nothing. Plus he can sign a new contract that makes up that money, for a shorter time frame.

So he will be able to make more money, and play fewer year (if he wants to retire) if he gets bought out.

The only think Loungo has to worry about is if Vancouver decides to hold onto him for 1 more year and use the buy-out next year instead.
- youarewrong

Two words for you: Rick DiPietro

So do they have to wait late this evening to hand out walking papers?

They should try to get the first of next year's first
- dingo8urbaby

They should try to get the first pick in 2015 lol

Every player who is going to be bought out has to be places on Waviers for the purpose of a buyout first.
- MJL

Are you saying any player bought out may be claimed by another team before they hit UFA? I don't think that is true for CBA buy-outs. If that was the case I don't think Briere would hit the market.

Two words for you: Rick DiPietro
- aightwebang17

What about him?

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Simon Gagne ($2.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Brad Richardson ($1.500m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.594m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Jay Rosehill ($0.675m)
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.851m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Andrew Ference ($3.500m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.613m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($4.267m—20.0%)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,373,260; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $1,726,740

They should try to get the first pick in 2015 lol
- griouxmvp2012

In franchise mode, I get the first pick every year.

For 8 more years?!?!? Didn't we just get rid of 9 year contract? Paying him 5 mil a season is absurd. I would like to think we'd be able to get a 3rd rounder for Mez, second tops, but thats a stretch.
- iroc4me2

Bryz and Lu have completely different contracts from a cap recapture standpoint. Vancouver will pay most of Lu's recapture if he's traded since they benefitted most from his low aav. Philly was on the hook for most of bryz if he's traded or retired.

In franchise mode, I get the first pick every year.
- youarewrong

Haha Connor mcdavid

So do they have to wait late this evening to hand out walking papers?
- dingo8urbaby

Correct. I believe it becomes official at 11pm

Correct. I believe it becomes official at 11pm
- stveshdy

I can't wait to see all the names that get bought out should be fun

I can't wait to see all the names that get bought out should be fun
- griouxmvp2012

Will see what happens. The free agent market could get interesting.

Will see what happens. The free agent market could get interesting.
- stveshdy

Yea I think it will be a fun summer

Draft either Rasmus Ristolainen, Darnell Nurse, or Ryan Pulock (I'm ok with the big Russian dmen also)

Trade for a Edler (Van), David Rundblad (Phx), or another younger dmen.
(I'm ok with B. Schenn going the other way depending on the return)

Sign Emery

Sign our own FA (including Giroux)

And call it an offseason.

NOTE: If they draft Rasmus Ristolainen they might not need to trade for a dmen. He's been playing against older players in Finland, he may be able to jump in.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Simon Gagne ($2.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Brad Richardson ($1.500m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.594m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Jay Rosehill ($0.675m)
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.851m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Andrew Ference ($3.500m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.613m) / Bruno Gervais ($0.825m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($4.267m—20.0%)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,373,260; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $1,726,740
- flyersfan51

FYI: Strong possibility that Eric Wellwood never plays another NHL game again because of the injury he incurred last year.

If i'm looking long term with the youth we have, I'm looking for a goalie who is young (like mason) or is liked enough by team mates to mentor mason if need be.

I can't really see Luongo being that guy. Could he? Absolutely. Schneider has turned out pretty well!

If I'm gm, I'm more concerned with revamping the defense and bringing in forwards round out the team on both sides of the puck.

Do you feel Thomas Greiss could be a solid backup goalie choice for a good price for us?
- MrBigglesworth

Flyers already have a backup goalie. They need a starter.

FYI: Strong possibility that Eric Wellwood never plays another NHL game again because of the injury he incurred last year.
- johndewar

I stopped following after the 1st half of the season last year, what injury did wellwood sustain!?

I stopped following after the 1st half of the season last year, what injury did wellwood sustain!?
- Flyersgod

Why did you stop following?