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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 26 @ 3:33 PM ET
He would become "Lindrosov".
- johndewar

Get it straight. Lindroshkin....
Sheesh.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 3:35 PM ET
i have not yet received the follow up email for my draft tickets either,

nfg, have you?

- Don'tForgetTocchet



not yet
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
actually was spinning a Hull and Oats reference there
- MrBigglesworth

I know, its the

same Hall and Oats song, covered by a different band
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:37 PM ET
I think my highest hopes are in one Brayden Schenn. I don't mean to compare him to Mike Richards but Richards was able to become an important player offensively by his third season. Mind you if you total all his NHL games up (110), he has played just under a season and half. I won't be disappointed is he doesn't begin taking over games this season. I will however expect big things from him next season. I think all eyes should be on him this season. I think he can start doing it now.
- dingo8urbaby

If the Flyers do somehow manage to get a sniper on wing to play with G, then they will have a hell of a second line with Brayden Schenn and Jake V.

That is what dreams are made of.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:38 PM ET
is this stud superstar Bobby Ryan or are you referring to someone else?

cause frankly I like Jake V better then Ryan.

- Marc D


I'd much prefer vanek over ryan.

Problem is vanek is going to cost us a young kid. I do it if b schenn goes back. Will need to add Matt read. Prob still do it
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 3:38 PM ET
Just for fun, not sure if any cred. He did list the Tor LA trade before it happened.

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily 7m
Hearing as of now that the Flyers offer for Miller is Coburn+Read+1st for the All Star Goaltender

- ImThatGuy


I would need an asset coming back from Buffalo to even make this a little palatable.

jackfrost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:40 PM ET
I hope we get Nichushkin so we can butcher his name when drunk... Already looking forward to it.
- FlyersGrace



I can already butcher his name without being drunk ...

Sorry for this late post I'm catching up to the current theads one page at a time so as not to miss anything ..
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:41 PM ET
If the Flyers do somehow manage to get a sniper on wing to play with G, then they will have a hell of a second line with Brayden Schenn and Jake V.

That is what dreams are made of.

- Marc D


Stanislav Chistov is available!
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:42 PM ET
I would need an asset coming back from Buffalo to even make this a little palatable.
- johndewar



vanek?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:42 PM ET
Maybe buffalo would take b. schenn, mez, 2nd for vanek?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 26 @ 3:43 PM ET
Just for fun, not sure if any cred. He did list the Tor LA trade before it happened.

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily 7m
Hearing as of now that the Flyers offer for Miller is Coburn+Read+1st for the All Star Goaltender

- ImThatGuy


A 1st in what year? 2027? Because that's the only way that deal works for this year, with them picking 11th, and next year, with the draft in Philadelphia, considering Miller only has one year left on his deal.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 3:43 PM ET
I think of Max the chauffer from Heart to Heart. Yeah, showing my age.

"And when they met, it was murder.....

- hockeylover


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 3:44 PM ET
A 1st in what year? 2027? Because that's the only way that deal works for this year, with them picking 11th, and next year, with the draft in Philadelphia, considering Miller only has one year left on his deal.
- AllInForFlyers


Yup. That was the part that made me cringe.

Like I said earlier, something's got to come back the other way if Homer is considering this at all.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 3:44 PM ET
actually was spinning a Hull and Oats reference there
- MrBigglesworth


Brett Hull and Adam Oats?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 3:45 PM ET
Maybe buffalo would take b. schenn, mez, 2nd for vanek?
- Just5

You'd really wanna give B Schenn for a 29 year old?
jackfrost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:45 PM ET
I don't post much on here pretty much stay in the shadows but I do appreciate the comments from you all - makes for some really intriguing debates

In passing thru to play catch up on here my heart skipped a few beats on the Ryan Miller rumor ...

To quote Will Smith .. No ... No ... HELL NO!

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:45 PM ET
no! no! no!!!!!!
- hammarby31



JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 3:48 PM ET
I don't post much on here pretty much stay in the shadows but I do appreciate the comments from you all - makes for some really intriguing debates

In passing thru to play catch up on here my heart skipped a few beats on the Ryan Miller rumor ...

To quote Will Smith .. No ... No ... HELL NO!

- jackfrost

It doesn't really seem logical to buy-out one above-average headcase goalie in order just to spend valuable assets just to bring in another, older, above-average headcase goalie. Doesn't make sense to me.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:52 PM ET
I don't post much on here pretty much stay in the shadows but I do appreciate the comments from you all - makes for some really intriguing debates

In passing thru to play catch up on here my heart skipped a few beats on the Ryan Miller rumor ...

To quote Will Smith .. No ... No ... HELL NO!

- jackfrost

welcome Jack
jackfrost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:52 PM ET
It doesn't really seem logical to buy-out one above-average headcase goalie in order just to spend valuable assets just to bring in another, older, above-average headcase goalie. Doesn't make sense to me.
- JAKEw1234



I agree plus to me that is waaaaaay too much to be giving up for Miller

I get it that Read is the player that makes sense to trade but giving up Coburn and the 11th is too much without getting more back from Buffalo

Besides Ive never been a Miller fan for the reasons you mentioned
jackfrost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 26 @ 3:53 PM ET
welcome Jack
- vejim



Thanks vejim!

I hope to post more - enjoy this blog and Bill is an excellent read each day - not a drama queen like some of these media bloggers on here from Philly ...
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 3:56 PM ET
I agree plus to me that is waaaaaay too much to be giving up for Miller

I get it that Read is the player that makes sense to trade but giving up Coburn and the 11th is too much without getting more back from Buffalo

Besides Ive never been a Miller fan for the reasons you mentioned

- jackfrost

I wouldn't trade anything for Miller . Cap hit way to high and hes a UFA at the end of the year
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 26 @ 3:56 PM ET
Yup. That was the part that made me cringe.

Like I said earlier, something's got to come back the other way if Homer is considering this at all.

- johndewar


I embrace risk as much as the next guy, maybe even more than most, so with Read being unrestricted next year, I'm not opposed to Coburn and Read for Miller.

But why would anybody give more than that? Coburn's 28 and a Top 4 defenseman. Read's a 20-goal winger, 27 years old. Why in the world would a 33-year-old goalie with a $6 million cap hit with one year left on his deal be worth more than that?

There are trades that are made today in the NHL that are like that rumor, and they make no sense to me. At some point, some of these GMs need to start looking at the sellers in the marketplace and say, "Look. You're the one who's rebuilding. This is a fair deal. Coburn's under contract for the next four years. Read and Miller are both unrestricted, so that's a wash. Miller's at the age where you simply do not know if he's going to be a difference-making goalie, if you do extend him."

"It's a fair deal. Take it, or we just run with Steve Mason and take our chances."
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jun 26 @ 3:57 PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJiCUdLBxuI

nice version by Nicky Bluhm

- Marc D



very nice thanks
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 3:59 PM ET
I wouldn't trade anything for Miller . Cap hit way to high and hes a UFA at the end of the year
- Winning


Well, the cap risk is hedged a bit.

If the Flyers acquired Miller and didn't like him.....they just let him walk next year. Miller has every reason to have a good year this year, financially speaking.

I still think that rumor had waaay too much going in Buffalo's direction for a goalie they don't want anymore.
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