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Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:06 AM ET
I think Monohan or Lindholm will be there at 7. I forget who from ON said they also really like Bo Horvat. Trade down and pick up a another pick if need be.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:07 AM ET
Bad press for the Nucks? Getting the nightmare of the goalie controversy over by any means will be good for them...

And if they get someone to take him on waivers they'd be happier than buying him out. I have a hard time seeing anyone taking him on waivers even though....

- Iggysbff



CBJ Bob offered 10 Mil a year. Kipper retires Flyers buy out Bryz. Could happen , not saying it will but there might be a team taking him. Leafs do have two backup goalies also they may take him.
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:08 AM ET
Eberle rnh hall as number one line and yakupov gagner nichuskin as a second line. What a mix of speed vision power and skill. Trouble for any defense in the NHL. Let's hope we can put together a third and forth.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:09 AM ET
Bad press for the Nucks? Getting the nightmare of the goalie controversy over by any means will be good for them...

And if they get someone to take him on waivers they'd be happier than buying him out. I have a hard time seeing anyone taking him on waivers even though....

- Iggysbff


teams like PHX or NYI'd welcome Lu with open arms. Why put him on waivers when you can deal him for a 7th round pick?

Less if a press disaster, goalie controversy averted
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:09 AM ET
The think I like about Bob Mac's list is its a consensus of only ten scouts but it also has below it the rankings of the various other sources (ISS, CSS, McKeen, THN, CB). Having watched only a handful of Nurse and Ristolainen and a few highlights I really couldn't say who is better. Not sure how Clout can either.
The thing that REALLY puzzles me is how Nurse is very consistently ranked by all at 5-8. Whereas Ristolainen is anywhere from 8- 25. One wonders why the disparity in Risto's ranking. I'd take either.

- Iggysbff

Cloutier has never seen any of them play that's why
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:11 AM ET
Eberle rnh hall as number one line and yakupov gagner nichuskin as a second line. What a mix of speed vision power and skill. Trouble for any defense in the NHL. Let's hope we can put together a third and forth.
- Snagglepuss

Nichuskin hasn't played an NHL game... Remember a former top 10 pick named Magnus Prv? He's supposed to be a (frank)ing all star if we go back 3 years. Instead he's a tweener. Not enough skill to be top 6 and is a complete puss.

Nichuskin could very well be that.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:12 AM ET
teams like PHX or NYI'd welcome Lu with open arms. Why put him on waivers when you can deal him for a 7th round pick?

Less if a press disaster, goalie controversy averted

- TheNugeIsHuge

Why would Phoenix want him? I'm sure the ownership would love to pay him until he's 60 years old cause they have money flying out there asses...
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:12 AM ET
The think I like about Bob Mac's list is its a consensus of only ten scouts but it also has below it the rankings of the various other sources (ISS, CSS, McKeen, THN, CB). Having watched only a handful of Nurse and Ristolainen and a few highlights I really couldn't say who is better. Not sure how Clout can either.
The thing that REALLY puzzles me is how Nurse is very consistently ranked by all at 5-8. Whereas Ristolainen is anywhere from 8- 25. One wonders why the disparity in Risto's ranking. I'd take either.

- Iggysbff


My top 8 are the same as TSN's. Bob said he wasn't gonna copy, he'd just read it, dammit!
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:13 AM ET
Why would Phoenix want him? I'm sure the ownership would love to pay him until he's 60 years old cause they have money flying out there asses...
- Pilgor09


no goalie. They wanted Lombardi
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:13 AM ET
Cloutier has never seen any of them play that's why
- Ihatebrianburke

Exactly.

He just reads from ON and makes himself sound like he knows what's going on.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:13 AM ET
Why would Phoenix want him? I'm sure the ownership would love to pay him until he's 60 years old cause they have money flying out there asses...
- Pilgor09



Phoenix is a lovely place to retire.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:14 AM ET
no goalie. They wanted Lombardi
- TheNugeIsHuge

They'll sign a reclamation project like they did with Smith and Bryz. They play a defensive game which makes those goalies look good.

Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:15 AM ET
Phoenix is a lovely place to retire.
- VANTEL

Haha.

I want Edm to pick up Luu just because he's an absolute beauty.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:16 AM ET
I can see Phoenix signing Theodore and make him look like an Allstar.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:17 AM ET
Nichuskin hasn't played an NHL game... Remember a former top 10 pick named Magnus Prv? He's supposed to be a (frank)ing all star if we go back 3 years. Instead he's a tweener. Not enough skill to be top 6 and is a complete puss.

Nichuskin could very well be that.

- Pilgor09

And Omark could outscore Eberle
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:18 AM ET
I think that deal is a steal for the oilers. Wouldn't waste too seconds making it. I think it's MPS and maybe both seconds in the draft, or next years first. Either way i'd be happy to have bradon
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:18 AM ET
that's unlikely as f***
- TheNugeIsHuge


And what do you know?? Emery is twice the goalie Dubnyk is and Emery makes his team mates accountable for their actions when he is in net. He calls them out if they are not working hard enough. I love Ray Emery and there is no doubt in my mind him and Dubnyk would be a solid tandem with Emery likely being the number one.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:19 AM ET
And Omark could outscore Eberle
- Ihatebrianburke

Yeah could. I really emphasized the could.

Wait until he comes back with another team.

Eberle is garbage.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:20 AM ET
And what do you know?? Emery is twice the goalie Dubnyk is and Emery makes his team mates accountable for their actions when he is in net. He calls them out if they are not working hard enough. I love Ray Emery and there is no doubt in my mind him and Dubnyk would be a solid tandem with Emery likely being the number one.
- flyerdude17


well Dubey just had a .921 facing the 2nd most SA/G in the league on one of the worst teams in the league, and the last 3 times Emery has played over 25 games he's had a .900, .905, and an .890. That's why.
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:20 AM ET
Nichuskin hasn't played an NHL game... Remember a former top 10 pick named Magnus Prv? He's supposed to be a (frank)ing all star if we go back 3 years. Instead he's a tweener. Not enough skill to be top 6 and is a complete puss.

Nichuskin could very well be that.

- Pilgor09

He could also be the next malkin so the possibilty is exciting.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:20 AM ET
I think that deal is a steal for the oilers. Wouldn't waste too seconds making it. I think it's MPS and maybe both seconds in the draft, or next years first. Either way i'd be happy to have bradon
- deadsector


What is this deal again, Magnus for Coburn is not likely to happen, flyers do not need more forwards, they need more dmen so I doubt Coburn is going anywhere. The oilers first rounder in there could make it happen though.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:21 AM ET
And what do you know?? Emery is twice the goalie Dubnyk is and Emery makes his team mates accountable for their actions when he is in net. He calls them out if they are not working hard enough. I love Ray Emery and there is no doubt in my mind him and Dubnyk would be a solid tandem with Emery likely being the number one.
- flyerdude17


watch an oiler game once ya genius
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:21 AM ET
Eberle and the 7th for Logan Couture.

Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:21 AM ET
Haha.

I want Edm to pick up Luu just because he's an absolute beauty.

- Pilgor09

I would be all for acquiring him after a buyout. Just not on his current contract.
coolehmon41
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:22 AM ET
Being the pessa mist that I am, I think Oilers fans including myself will be dissapointed by the lack of trades and aquisitions that MacT makes. Not because he isn't going to try, but because you can't get something for nothing.
- pj50


you mean u wont be getting Gardiner, Reimer and a 1st for Gagner as Clouts suggested. Okay thats last time I mention it I promise
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