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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:47 PM ET
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:48 PM ET
That was the stupidest rumour in the history of the internet.
- Jeropotato

Why?
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:48 PM ET
Thanks. Do any of you believe that Horc will be bought out? I still think he's going to be traded or remain an Oiler.
- Jeropotato



No one wants him unless we take a good chunk of his salary... If we are not buying him out my bet is he stays and plays which is not the worst thing... just how do you maintain him wearing the 'C' after all the talks that were made public...
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:49 PM ET
Thanks. Do any of you believe that Horc will be bought out? I still think he's going to be traded or remain an Oiler.
- Jeropotato

It seems like he's going to be moved. But that being said, he's not petulant, he's old school: if he doesn't get mvoed by next year he'll shut up and play imo.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:50 PM ET
No one wants him unless we take a good chunk of his salary... If we are not buying him out my bet is he stays and plays which is not the worst thing... just how do you maintain him wearing the 'C' after all the talks that were made public...
- saskoil21

I believe after the changes this summer, MacT can comfortably say that Eakins will pick a new captain.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:51 PM ET
Thanks. Do any of you believe that Horc will be bought out? I still think he's going to be traded or remain an Oiler.
- Jeropotato


Well if he isn't, Clouts is gonna look like an @sshole
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:51 PM ET
No one wants him unless we take a good chunk of his salary... If we are not buying him out my bet is he stays and plays which is not the worst thing... just how do you maintain him wearing the 'C' after all the talks that were made public...
- saskoil21

Last I heard is MacT told his agent to go find a trade.

Not a good sign for us or Horc.

Not a good sign part 2. Not a single person has called about Omark.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:51 PM ET
Why?
- Lahey


I just don't beleive it's going to happen. I think some smart capologist and CBA junkie figured out a way to keep VL at a lower cap hit and floated the rumour. Toronto is an easy target since they have so much dough. Did it come from a good source?
Not to mention,what the price in trade be? A first rounder, a prospect and a roster player. TO would charge way more than VL's worth simply because they can.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
So I wonder- are we offer sheeting AP??? Or can we trade for JBo or Phaneuf?? I would not mind 1 of the 3 - it would be a step fwd IMO... I would even entertain trading my beloved Eberle if we draft that Nisch... kid - for a top dman... but (frank) that would be a tough pill to swallow...
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
I just don't beleive it's going to happen. I think some smart capologist and CBA junkie figured out a way to keep VL at a lower cap hit and floated the rumour. Toronto is an easy target since they have so much dough. Did it come from a good source?
Not to mention,what the price in trade be? A first rounder, a prospect and a roster player. TO would charge way more than VL's worth simply because they can.

- Jeropotato

Came from the New York post.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
So I wonder- are we offer sheeting AP??? Or can we trade for JBo or Phaneuf?? I would not mind 1 of the 3 - it would be a step fwd IMO... I would even entertain trading my beloved Eberle if we draft that Nisch... kid - for a top dman... but (frank) that would be a tough pill to swallow...
- saskoil21

I don't see an offer sheet .

JBo or Phaneuf? (frank) that get them both.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
Last I heard is MacT told his agent to go find a trade.

Not a good sign for us or Horc.

Not a good sign part 2. Not a single person has called about Omark.

- Lahey



poor (frank)ing Pilgor... its like a slap in the face when he sees Eberle put up numbers like he did 2 years ago- or even last year with a broken hand- all the while Omark awaits his chance...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
No one wants him unless we take a good chunk of his salary... If we are not buying him out my bet is he stays and plays which is not the worst thing... just how do you maintain him wearing the 'C' after all the talks that were made public...
- saskoil21


Well, Horc is a smart guy.He knows that interest in him is low if he can't get traded. It would be a smart public and professional perception move for him to hand over the C at a presser and go out and play a solid season in a supporting role.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
I just don't beleive it's going to happen. I think some smart capologist and CBA junkie figured out a way to keep VL at a lower cap hit and floated the rumour. Toronto is an easy target since they have so much dough. Did it come from a good source?
Not to mention,what the price in trade be? A first rounder, a prospect and a roster player. TO would charge way more than VL's worth simply because they can.

- Jeropotato

And if the league can veto the kovy contract for cap circumvention, they can veto that trade.

It would be perfectly evident what was going on when this trade arrives at the head offices:

"Toronto receives:
Vincent Lecavalier
1st round pick
Andrej Sustr

Tampa Bay receives:
Future Considerations"
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
Came from the New York post.
- Lahey


Larry Brooks?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
So I wonder- are we offer sheeting AP??? Or can we trade for JBo or Phaneuf?? I would not mind 1 of the 3 - it would be a step fwd IMO... I would even entertain trading my beloved Eberle if we draft that Nisch... kid - for a top dman... but (frank) that would be a tough pill to swallow...
- saskoil21

MacT said yesterday offer sheets always seem to backfire so they weren't considering that really.

Lowe couldn't hear because he had cup rings in his ears.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
Gregor just posted his interview


MacTavish: I have not had a team inquire about him. I’ve had Linus’ agent ask me if I’d be willing to move his rights and I would be. Again, he’s had a good year in Europe, playing in Zug I think, and so far no one has called. We’d be happy to get involved in a discussion with Linus, about Linus.

http://oilersnation.com/2...one-on-one-with-mactavish
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
I don't see an offer sheet .

JBo or Phaneuf? (frank) that get them both.

- Lahey



what do you give up for each??? I would rather offer sheet but...

??? for Jbo

??? for Phaneuf
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:56 PM ET
MacT said yesterday offer sheets always seem to backfire so they weren't considering that really.

Lowe couldn't hear because he had cup rings in his ears.

- Morris



saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:57 PM ET
Well, Horc is a smart guy.He knows that interest in him is low if he can't get traded. It would be a smart public and professional perception move for him to hand over the C at a presser and go out and play a solid season in a supporting role.
- Jeropotato



I agree...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
And if the league can veto the kovy contract for cap circumvention, they can veto that trade.

It would be perfectly evident what was going on when this trade arrives at the head offices:

"Toronto receives:
Vincent Lecavalier
1st round pick
Andrej Sustr

Tampa Bay receives:
Future Considerations"

- Morris


Well thats what I mean. If the desired result in VL at 3 or 4 Million a year , what is that really worth?

I would say it's it's still worth less that what TO should be charging.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
MacT said yesterday offer sheets always seem to backfire so they weren't considering that really.

Lowe couldn't hear because he had cup rings in his ears.

- Morris

What's your take on the whole center situation? MacT gives Gagner a vote of confidence in more then one way, but really wants a center at #7. I have no issue with center depth, but just seems like he isn't fully behind the two current guys.

That and Arcobello gets a lot of praise.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:59 PM ET
what do you give up for each??? I would rather offer sheet but...

??? for Jbo

??? for Phaneuf

- saskoil21

Couple corn dogs and a bag of peanuts.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
what do you give up for each??? I would rather offer sheet but...

??? for Jbo

??? for Phaneuf

- saskoil21


Both those (frank)s will be UFA's in a year. Prospects and picks?
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
what do you give up for each??? I would rather offer sheet but...

??? for Jbo

??? for Phaneuf

- saskoil21



Man you guys DO NOT want Phaneuf......seriously....just...no
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