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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:15 PM ET
even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, and every once in a while Lahey gets laid. by a female.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
You got that right, He will be the Flames new goalie, book it!
- Byfuglien Ate Me

i expect it to be lou if he's bought out.

otherwise, its the ramo/macdonald show for the year
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:21 PM ET
Arent you all going to look sad if clouts proves to be bang on with the Horcoff buyout??? That would place him in a tie with ek for actual rumors that came to fruition...
- saskoil21


Can probably dig up a dozen times when he said he was getting bought out, and a dozen more when he said he definitely wasn't.

He flip flops so much you never know what he'll claim.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
Posted this a while back:

Three Reasons why Cloutier can celebrate his wisdom if Shawn Horcoff is bought out
1) He accurately predicted that Shawn Horcoff would be bought out, and said it would happen via compliance as early as when the lockout ended.
2) He re-iterated his prediction after Stauffer's interview even after assurances that he was reading too much into it.
3) He made some remarks about the fact that Horcoff exemplified the "losing culture", which appears to be the public reason for the buyout.

Three reasons why Cloutier can't celebrate his wisdom if Shawn Horcoff is bought out.
1) This won't be the first season that he's predicted Horcoff is gone. Too many called shots.
2) You can't not know why someone is calling a press conference AND call yourself a god if it turns out to be something you had guessed. No confidence in his prediction. (this was when he thought the Krueger presser was about Horcoff)
3) He was always unclear in the time frame whether Horcoff would be bought out BEFORE or AFTER a replacement is found. This is a crucial part of the prediction.

- Morris




Damn - its like you were prep'd for this or something...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
Can probably dig up a dozen times when he said he was getting bought out, and a dozen more when he said he definitely wasn't.

He flip flops so much you never know what he'll claim.

- Iggysbff



Good pt... ?Bipolar ?Insomnia ?multi-personality disorder-- what do we blame this on??
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, and every once in a while Lahey gets laid. by a female.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:31 PM ET
i expect it to be lou if he's bought out.

otherwise, its the ramo/macdonald show for the year

- numbear


Rambo and Ronald MacDonald will not share the net well, and they are both in their 60's.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
How many people here would take Phaneuf?? I think he may be a good addition dependent on the price..
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:36 PM ET
Rambo and Ronald MacDonald will not share the net well, and they are both in their 60's.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

ramo is 26
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
Damn - its like you were prep'd for this or something...
- saskoil21

I want to give him credit where credit is due. He said things to the effect of "horcoff is gone for sure" which is not what I was thinking. But he never really had the audacity to claim that they'd buy out Horcoff without a replacement being lined up. So I'm impressed, but not that impressed. Everyone knew that if we had a guy who could do the exact same things Horcs did for less money, we wouldn't hesitate to replace him. All I hope now is that Clouts doesn't lord it over us
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
How many people here would take Phaneuf?? I think he may be a good addition dependent on the price..
- saskoil21




Although he is a good Dman I would not want him anyhere near our team. And with a year before UFA time there's no way.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 25 @ 5:40 PM ET
I want to give him credit where credit is due. He said things to the effect of "horcoff is gone for sure" which is not what I was thinking. But he never really had the audacity to claim that they'd buy out Horcoff without a replacement being lined up. So I'm impressed, but not that impressed. Everyone knew that if we had a guy who could do the exact same things Horcs did for less money, we wouldn't hesitate to replace him. All I hope now is that Clouts doesn't lord it over us
- Morris

He will, just like pilgor would suddenly be back every day if Omark actually did something asides from suck.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
He will, just like pilgor would suddenly be back every day if Omark actually did something asides from suck.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I think all you can hope is that Clouts will cool off of his opinions. First he said we'd get Monahan to replace Gagner, now I feel like he's come around to the idea that the 7th pick prospect won't be ready and that Gagner will stay.

Prediction for next blog: He proposes Clutterbuck + Matt Cullen's rights for Pitlick, Omark and a 2nd.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
Damn, I feel bad about making fun of clout's over KFC all the time. I just had my Zinger Double Down from KFC. (frank) was it tasty. Ok I'm sleepy and need to take a nap now.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 25 @ 6:28 PM ET
How many people here would take Phaneuf?? I think he may be a good addition dependent on the price..
- saskoil21


Phaneuf, Reimer, #21, Ashton for Hall? No, you're right that's overpayment...
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 6:32 PM ET
Clouts there are always guys on a team that the GM doesn't want to move. You do need to relise that to get something the oilers will have to give something and yes we've reached that point where the oilers need to be better or risk lossing fans. People are mad here and runnin out of rope for the oilers. It's going to be start winning soon or people will tune out. So if giving up say eberle to fill a need and get a superstar D back then thats what MacT has to do weither you like it or not. The oilers maybe still be bad next year but fans need to see something to keep them on this teams train.

First rumor, though i like ganger i tbelieve we need a big center if RNH is number one then ganger needs to go.
Clutterbuck sucks that will be all. He won't get along with hall either. No thanks give me matt cook instead if possible.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
Clouts there are always guys on a team that the GM doesn't want to move. You do need to relise that to get something the oilers will have to give something and yes we've reached that point where the oilers need to be better or risk lossing fans. People are mad here and runnin out of rope for the oilers. It's going to be start winning soon or people will tune out. So if giving up say eberle to fill a need and get a superstar D back then thats what MacT has to do weither you like it or not. The oilers maybe still be bad next year but fans need to see something to keep them on this teams train.

First rumor, though i like ganger i tbelieve we need a big center if RNH is number one then ganger needs to go.
Clutterbuck sucks that will be all. He won't get along with hall either. No thanks give me matt cook instead if possible.

- deadsector



LB?..
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
Nothing about Gardiner!! No leafs fans!!
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
Here's my thought today. (frank) it, let's go buck wild and take every deal on the table.
Let me just daydream a little bit

Pitlick + Anaheim 2nd <--> Cal Clutterbuck
Hemsky + 7th <--> Cowen + Smith
Nick Schultz + 2014 Edmonton 2nd <--> Scott Hartnell
Sign Lapierre and Emery

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Hartnell-Nuge-Eberle
Pajaarvi-Smith-Clutterbuck
Smyth-Lapierre-Brown

Petry-Smid
Schultz-Cowen
Belov-Klefbom

Dubnyk
Emery

- Morris


Value wise that Hartnell trade probably wouldn't work, but the fact that he just had a sh*t season, he's signed til 2019, that PHI has cap issues and that they need D, that just might work
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
I hope we get nurse with the 7 th but I will gladly settle for monahan, lindholme, nichushkin. We got Options boys.
- Snagglepuss


At 7 EDM's guaranteed one of Lindholm, Nichushkin, or Monahan. I'd be happy with whoever lands in their lap
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 25 @ 7:12 PM ET
How many people here would take Phaneuf?? I think he may be a good addition dependent on the price..
- saskoil21




Die


TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:12 PM ET
Coburn could be an effective #2 D, but he needs to be paired with a player like Kimmo Timonen in his prime to do it. Otherwise he is better in the second pair.

Coburn is a very good skater, has good size, a very erratic shot, and really took a step back this year when asked to perform as more of a puck moving D.
Playing a lot with Gervais also hurt him.

He can play 23-24 minutes a night.
With Mezsaros and Grossmann having health issues, the Flyers would need another top 4 defenseman if they trade Coburn.
I just can't see Edmonton being a good trade partner for this reason.
Coburn is a solid player when used right.

- Marc D


He'd be a great fit with J Schultz. He wouldn't have to be the puck mover, he'd need to be a shut down guy.

But, yea PHI desperately needs D. Doesn't make any sense to deal it away
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 7:16 PM ET
At 7 EDM's guaranteed one of Lindholm, Nichushkin, or Monahan. I'd be happy with whoever lands in their lap
- TheNugeIsHuge

So much young talent available and it will blend greatly with the talent we got already. Lines,1 hall, rnh, eberle 2, yakupov, gagner, nichuskin. 3, mps, lander, ufa. 4, we will make something up.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:17 PM ET






TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:17 PM ET
So much young talent available and it will blend greatly with the talent we got already. Lines,1 hall, rnh, eberle 2, yakupov, gagner, nichuskin. 3, mps, lander, ufa. 4, we will make something up.
- Snagglepuss


lander becoming a 3C is optimistic. I hope he can become a 4C
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