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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
I sure as hell hope we've seen the last of Hemmer in an Oil uni....
- Iggysbff


As do I, and I think he will be moved. Horcoff won't be bought out I dont think. If we get no trade for him then we'll suck it up with him for another 3/4ths of a season or so. (Minus the Captaincy,of course).
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:05 PM ET
I want to restock the prospect cupboards and let a bunch of guys develop a while.
- Iggysbff


(frank)ing rights man. We will eventually trade one of the kids for awesome assets, but that isnt going to happen until a prospect developes into a fine replacement and said "Kid" is now expendable.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:06 PM ET
Well ,I am as impatient as a mother(frank)er, but that leads to stupid ideas and knee jerk trades that (frank) us in the long term. Mac T will figure out how to replace Jones, Petrel, belanger,Smithson etc no problem. We already replaced Hemsky a year ago, so any asset we get for him could be used for a depth forward position, Sh!tney has alreadt been replaced (and UPGRADED). The one area Mac T may have to sacrifice an okay roster player is if he strikes out with Boyd Gordon (or a comparable player) as our 3C in Free agency. The rest can be had.
- Jeropotato


At this point I'm even on side with MacT taking a chance on a UFA. If they don't work we dump em ala Jagr to a cup contender for a 1st plus.
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:08 PM ET
Sam Gagner
Oilers have made a long-term contract extension offer to him. From what I've heard the two sides are close. So close, in fact, that a new deal could be announced by the end of the day.

- Maxbone


i though i just read a few hours ago that he was close to being dealt? so who is right ek or clout?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:10 PM ET
i though i just read a few hours ago that he was close to being dealt? so who is right ek or clout?
- Rockhead_37


Well Clout is just saying what Dreger and Rishaug tweeted. Ek...well....you know...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:10 PM ET
At this point I'm even on side with MacT taking a chance on a UFA. If they don't work we dump em ala Jagr to a cup contender for a 1st plus.
- Iggysbff


There are dozens of better bottom 6 wingers than Petrell ,Jones and Hemsky (useless in a checking role).And most of them are cheap.
Who do you think the Oilers should target for the 3C spot if Horcoff gets moved?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:11 PM ET
I'm warming to trading with Dallas. 7th for 10th and 29th.

We get Horvat (or Lindholm or Monahan if they slip) and get an extra late pick.

- Iggysbff


Shouldn't the oil be looking at putting a package together to get a top end d ... A big center or power forward ?

pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:11 PM ET
I'll cut you
- TheNugeIsHuge


I actually believe you would too
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:12 PM ET
Lindholm has had a better PPG than backstrom did at the same age. He's 58% in the dot and apparently a pretty good 2 way guy. I'd take him if Monahan isn't there. He's better than Monahan just a lesser fit. Huge dropoff from Lindholm to Nurse
- TheNugeIsHuge


Big fan of lindholm
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:13 PM ET
Shouldn't the oil be looking at putting a package together to get a top end d ... A big center or power forward ?
- Redmile247


Not yet. Problem is that we dont have enough NHL calibre assets. Nobody wants our garbage, and moving a good player creates too big a hole we can't fill from the prospect pool.
We are going to have to settle for value contracts and short term UFA's for aqt least another year while we develope some Jr and AHL players.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:19 PM ET
Not yet. Problem is that we dont have enough NHL calibre assets. Nobody wants our garbage, and moving a good player creates too big a hole we can't fill from the prospect pool.
We are going to have to settle for value contracts and short term UFA's for aqt least another year while we develope some Jr and AHL players.

- Jeropotato


How about this
Gagner
1st

To devils
For

Henrique
Clarkson rights
2nd 2013

TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:21 PM ET
How about this
Gagner
1st

To devils
For

Henrique
Clarkson rights
2nd 2013

- Redmile247


Clarkson's going to TO no matter where his rights are. I like Henrique, but not worth Gagner+7th overall
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:22 PM ET
Not yet. Problem is that we dont have enough NHL calibre assets. Nobody wants our garbage, and moving a good player creates too big a hole we can't fill from the prospect pool.
We are going to have to settle for value contracts and short term UFA's for aqt least another year while we develope some Jr and AHL players.

- Jeropotato


Or

Gagner
1st

To rangers
For

McDonough
2nd
Prospect
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:23 PM ET
Shouldn't the oil be looking at putting a package together to get a top end d ... A big center or power forward ?
- Redmile247

yes.

it would have to be built around the 7th overall though. but id be willing to add in almost any prospect, hemsky, possibly even prv depending on the caliber of player coming our way.

im struggling to get my head around how an 18 year old drafted kid could possibly be better than a proven 27 year old top 4 dman. even with adding in one of our prospects who only might someday be good enough. we're not talking Nathan mackinnon here. anyone we pick at 7 is a question mark at the next level.

it's true our prospect pool isn't deep, but why do we want more kids instead of proven nhl'ers? so that we can continue to say our nhl roster is young and not ready, but hey we have a good number of guys in the minors who might someday make the squad?

im all for trading the 7th. we're going into year 4 of the rebuild, I think we absolutely should be pushing for the playoffs next year. and not just through words. I really don't feel good about those kids losing for another year. not only that, but i don't think it has to handcuff our future to go this route either.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:24 PM ET
Clarkson's going to TO no matter where his rights are. I like Henrique, but not worth Gagner+7th overall
- TheNugeIsHuge


Why is he going to TO ? Is this just like every other ufa ?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:24 PM ET
Or

Gagner
1st

To rangers
For

McDonough
2nd
Prospect

- Redmile247

where do i sign?

i cant imagine anyone in their right mind turning down ryan mcdonagh
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:28 PM ET
yes.

it would have to be built around the 7th overall though. but id be willing to add in almost any prospect, hemsky, possibly even prv depending on the caliber of player coming our way.

im struggling to get my head around how an 18 year old drafted kid could possibly be better than a proven 27 year old top 4 dman. even with adding in one of our prospects who only might someday be good enough

it's true our prospect pool isn't deep, but why do we want more kids instead of proven nhl'ers? so that we can continue to say our nhl roster is young and not ready, but hey we have a good number of guys in the minors who might someday make the squad?

im all for trading the 7th. I think we absolutely should be pushing for the playoffs next year. and not just through words. I really don't feel good about those kids losing for another year. not only that, but i don't think it has to handcuff our future to go this route either.

- hugefemale dog77


What about this

Talk to Nash and find out who they like at 7
Then when weber is tradable do
Weber
For
7th
Klefbom
2014 1st
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:29 PM ET
where do i sign?

i cant imagine anyone in their right mind turning down ryan mcdonagh

- hugefemale dog77


Would u do just him for the 7th and gagner ?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:29 PM ET
where do i sign?

i cant imagine anyone in their right mind turning down ryan mcdonagh

- hugefemale dog77


I strongly believe NYR turns down that deal instantly.

It'd take Eberle+7th to get McD
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:30 PM ET
What about this

Talk to Nash and find out who they like at 7
Then when weber is tradable do
Weber
For
7th
Klefbom
2014 1st

- Redmile247

i don't know what you mean by 'when weber is tradeable"
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:30 PM ET
I strongly believe NYR turns down that deal instantly.

It'd take Eberle+7th to get McD

- TheNugeIsHuge
i agree
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:31 PM ET
Would u do just him for the 7th and gagner ?
- Redmile247

yes
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:31 PM ET
I strongly believe NYR turns down that deal instantly.

It'd take Eberle+7th to get McD

- TheNugeIsHuge


That's what I thought but it was just a starting point
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:33 PM ET
i don't know what you mean by 'when weber is tradeable"
- hugefemale dog77


Offer sheet he signed
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:34 PM ET
Offer sheet he signed
- Redmile247

oh i see. like he cant be moved straight away. when can he?
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