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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:39 PM ET
Jeebis Krissmiss it's a circus in here today
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:39 PM ET
Some of those GM's that work miracles on shoestring budgets become disasters when the checkbook is bigger. Look at Sather, roundly praised as a genius in making the low cash Oilers competitive, comes to NY and spends like a drunken sailor with a foot fetish
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:40 PM ET
I don't get why people think he's clueless? Dude's mad intelligent.
- JAKEw1234

i never said he was stupid, i wanna get 40 mill dawg
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:41 PM ET
Some of those GM's that work miracles on shoestring budgets become disasters when the checkbook is bigger. Look at Sather, roundly praised as a genius in making the low cash Oilers competitive, comes to NY and spends like a drunken sailor with a foot fetish
- Jsaquella

Nasty visual with that post...nightmare material.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:41 PM ET
Homer is a good GM. He has a weakness in the contracts he signs, but he's good at most other things. Getting a new GM doesn't guarantee that you get a better GM, and I don't think we'd necessarily be getting a better GM by firing Homer.
- JAKEw1234

his failure in goal and developing top 4 d may indicate otherwise. i think he's on a slightly longer leash than lavi, but that's it. must deliver an ascending team this yr. contrast CHI and the flyers since 2010. who did a better job of re-tooling a SCF team?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:42 PM ET
Holland yes. Maybe Schiarelli. The others are just benefiting from lots of crappy seasons in previous years and higher/luckier draft picks.
- BringBack25

agree to disagree there
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:42 PM ET
Some of those GM's that work miracles on shoestring budgets become disasters when the checkbook is bigger. Look at Sather, roundly praised as a genius in making the low cash Oilers competitive, comes to NY and spends like a drunken sailor with a foot fetish
- Jsaquella

sather w/ drunken sailor syndrome for sure
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:43 PM ET
Some of those GM's that work miracles on shoestring budgets become disasters when the checkbook is bigger. Look at Sather, roundly praised as a genius in making the low cash Oilers competitive, comes to NY and spends like a drunken sailor with a foot fetish
- Jsaquella

I like Homer, I'm excited to see what he does
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:43 PM ET
So we are gonna trade for Ryan and hiller and move up in the draft too?? Sounds like fun
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:45 PM ET
Zadorov is #11 on McKenzie's TSN's final top 30 ranking list

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9420
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:46 PM ET
So right now the offense looks as follows...

Hartnell - Giroux - Voracek
Simmonds - Schenn - Read
_______ - Couturier - ________
Rinaldo - Talbot - Rosehill

An UFA's out there that would fit that third line role on Couturier's wings?

Defense...

Timonen - Coburn
Streit - Schenn
Grossman - Meszaros

Definitely need to continue to upgrade the defense. I do like the streit signing though.

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
his failure in goal and developing top 4 d may indicate otherwise. i think he's on a slightly longer leash than lavi, but that's it. must deliver an ascending team this yr. contrast CHI and the flyers since 2010. who did a better job of re-tooling a SCF team?
- isaiah520


No comparison really. Fantastically talented team now who hit rock bottom and stuck with their core guys.. drafted awesome D and then brought in complementary pieces including tenders. We've now turned over our core players but they were not as talented as Kane and Toews clearly.

Also some luck went their way..they got Kane and we got JVR.. Imagine if that had gone the other way?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
his failure in goal and developing top 4 d may indicate otherwise. i think he's on a slightly longer leash than lavi, but that's it. must deliver an ascending team this yr. contrast CHI and the flyers since 2010. who did a better job of re-tooling a SCF team?
- isaiah520

You can't blame him for not trying though. You could say that Bryz and Bob were both victims of the coaching and fanbase. He's tried alot of things to help our goaltending, so I wouldn't blame it on him. And the defense? Well fine, our franchise has a weakness. Most franchises do. Maybe we can start to turn it around by drafting Pulock this year.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:48 PM ET
his failure in goal and developing top 4 d may indicate otherwise. i think he's on a slightly longer leash than lavi, but that's it. must deliver an ascending team this yr. contrast CHI and the flyers since 2010. who did a better job of re-tooling a SCF team?
- isaiah520

Not saying it is the only reason, but can you imagine if we won the draft and got Kane? Danny could have been gone earlier for a nice return package and who knows what happens.... To quote Burke, "they won a f''in draft!"
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:50 PM ET
Why you guys HEFF no Respeck for Bryz, I bet he goes back to Phx and wins a Vezina
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
Zadorov is #11 on McKenzie's TSN's final top 30 ranking list

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9420

- ob18

Wow, Pulock at 23! If you look at all the other opinions at the bottom of the profile they are all over the place. Maybe trading down is the right move not much consensus out there.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
So what is the consensus on Nurse? No shot at #11 right? Will need to trade up to get him?
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
So what is the consensus on Nurse? No shot at #11 right? Will need to trade up to get him?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
Why you guys HEFF no Respeck for Bryz, I bet he goes back to Phx and wins a Vezina
- Byfuglien Ate Me

If by Phx you mean CSKA Moscow, and by Vezina you mean Golden Helmet, then you're spot on.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:57 PM ET
So what is the consensus on Nurse? No shot at #11 right? Will need to trade up to get him?
- Flyers2821

I'd rather have Pulock than Nurse. Imo Nurse will be a carbon copy of Coburn.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
TSN's final mock draft on for those who can watch it.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:02 PM ET
Oh screw it! I'll get on the Ryan Pulock bandwagon myself. Decent numbers as a puck mover. Right handed shot. Pretty good size, not great but enough.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 8:04 PM ET
Oh screw it! I'll get on the Ryan Pulock bandwagon myself. Decent numbers as a puck mover. INCREDIBLE Right handed shot. Pretty good size, not great but enough.
- dingo8urbaby

Amended.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:05 PM ET
Oh screw it! I'll get on the Ryan Pulock bandwagon myself. Decent numbers as a puck mover. Right handed shot. Pretty good size, not great but enough.
- dingo8urbaby


His offensive awareness/hockey sense, shot and passing skills are unmatched by any defenseman in the draft as of right now. It's a no brainer.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 8:05 PM ET
So what is the consensus on Nurse? No shot at #11 right? Will need to trade up to get him?
- Flyers2821

Nurse will be the bust of the draft I call it
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