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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:41 PM ET
I hope they do trade for him. On the open market has going to demand BIG money.

Two questions...
What year do you think Luongo retire? (Or really how many solid seasons does he have left)
What will the cap be in your best estimate when he does retire?

Now go to capgeeks cap recapture calc and plug it in.

If we trade for Lu this season and he plays 5 more years in Philly (until he is 39) the cap recapture penalty will be $1.726 million .. Per 4 seasons. If the cap is $90 million in 2018 that's less than 2% of our cap space affected by Lu's early retirement. To me its not that big of a deal considering lu is a fantastic goalie still in his prime and I want to win now. I think the lu contract thing is blown way out of proportion and anyone that thinks lu (or any CBO) will sign cheaply just because they have extra income is kidding themselves.

- moylander


There's no way in Hell I'd trade for Luongo's deal. If he's bought out, I'm all over it. But no trades.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:42 PM ET
CYA BRYZ!!!
Graduated today and now the best news possible!!!
(frank).YES!!!

- FLYERSROCK!


Congrats Rock. Post high school isn't easy but has its upside.

Get lucky last night? (assuming it was your grad)
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:42 PM ET
There's no way in Hell I'd trade for Luongo's deal. If he's bought out, I'm all over it. But no trades.
- Jsaquella


It wouldnt really suprise you if they did trade for him though would it?

Gut tells me Matt Read for Luongo.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
If they add Lugo I will probably quit being a fan.
- jak521


Listen, just because you don't like Italians plalying for the organIzation doesn't mean you quit Flyerdom.

Sheesh....
aflyerpower
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
How are we getting that team?
- Deasr1


From what I can tell Braydon Coburn, and every prospect/ draft pick the Flyers will own from now until the end of time.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
There's no way in Hell I'd trade for Luongo's deal. If he's bought out, I'm all over it. But no trades.
- Jsaquella


Better a 5 yr 30 mil shiny new contract or a trade where Toronto actually picks up the larger portion of the recapture? I doubt Lou signs cheaply. Do the math.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
Obviously, the blog I wrote for www.thehockeyguys.net was why the Flyers bought out Bryz. Please read my next blog "Why JSaq should get $5mm tax free"
- Jsaquella

I liked your input on the roundtable, sir. You going to be doing this somewhat often?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
It wouldnt really suprise you if they did trade for him though would it?

Gut tells me Matt Read for Luongo.

- flyer_nutter


It would surprise me, somewhat. There's no need to do it right now. The markets for him are drying up, maybe Tampa maybe Florida....who else is going to trade for him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
From what I can tell Braydon Coburn, and every prospect/ draft pick the Flyers will own from now until the end of time.
- aflyerpower


Bob Ryan for Coburn and a pick to be named all of them
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
From what I can tell Braydon Coburn, and every prospect/ draft pick the Flyers will own from now until the end of time.
- aflyerpower

Ohhh, phewww. I thought it was going to be bad.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
I liked your input on the roundtable, sir. You going to be doing this somewhat often?
- BulliesPhan87


No idea, I just responded to the e-mail

I'd like to do those. See and hear different views and thoughts, like here...without 2Real
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
I don't know, but this kind of huge deal and then getting rid of the guy two years later is the kind of thing that would get managers fired in any other line of business.

I like Homer but think he is on very thin ice at this point.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
There's no way in Hell I'd trade for Luongo's deal. If he's bought out, I'm all over it. But no trades.
- Jsaquella


he's not going to get bought out.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
It would surprise me, somewhat. There's no need to do it right now. The markets for him are drying up, maybe Tampa maybe Florida....who else is going to trade for him.
- Jsaquella


Never rule out Winnipeg. They be crazy out here.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
Better a 5 yr 30 mil shiny new contract or a trade where Toronto actually picks up the larger portion of the recapture? I doubt Lou signs cheaply. Do the math.
- moylander


I wouldn't offer him a ton. I'd offer him around $4.5-$5mm for 3 or 4 years. He says no, I sign another guy or trade for Halak or whomever....I'm not married to Luongo...I like him a lot, but he's not my holy grail
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
Just heard a leafs fan say Reimer to Philly for Laughton. Thoughts?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
he's not going to get bought out.
- hammarby31


Then everybody put your hands together for Jaroslav Halak!!!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
I don't know, but this kind of huge deal and then getting rid of the guy two years later is the kind of thing that would get managers fired in any other line of business.

I like Homer but think he is on very thin ice at this point.

- Marc D


he should be on thin ice.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
Just heard a leafs fan say Reimer to Philly for Laughton. Thoughts?
- JAKEw1234


Uh, no.

EDIT: Maybe for McGinn or Cousins and a pick
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
sounds extreme
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Im 26 years old, I have seen them reach the finals twice (winning only 2 games combined) and continually make rash decisions. Lugo would be a HUGE mistake. Be patient.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
Homer says its gonna be wild... Great news, were standing pat.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
he's not going to get bought out.
- hammarby31


Why do you say?
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
CYA BRYZ!!!
Graduated today and now the best news possible!!!
(frank).YES!!!

- FLYERSROCK!

Congrats!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:49 PM ET
Then everybody put your hands together for Jaroslav Halak!!!
- Jsaquella

Personally I wouldnt mind Emery... although I think he stays put.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:49 PM ET
Then everybody put your hands together for Jaroslav Halak!!!
- Jsaquella


we'll see what happens. i have to believe there's a solid "plan" in place.
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