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Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
They need a stud on the Blue line. What happened to Myers? Has his play really slipped that much?
- Vukota

Myers will be fine!
TP ripped him a new one recently!
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:10 PM ET
Q: What do Jimmy Howard, Corey Crawford, Tuuka Rask, and Jonathan Quick all have in common? A: their teams did not pay an arm and a leg for them. Especially with the emergence of Viktor Fasth last year, teams are realizing that you don't have to pay an arm and a leg for a big-name goalie to be successful. In fact, with big names such as Fleury, Ward, Kiprusoff, and Luongo all recently going through some major struggles, most being unseated in their starters spot, it's hard to see why any team would think the way to go would be to pay a kings ransom for a big name in net. Add to that Miller was 18th in save percentage (behind Steve Mason!) and 34th in GAA (Dubnyk was 12th in save percentage and 23rd in GAA) this last season... Bottom line is that most teams are smart enough to pay for results, not for a name. Miller did not deliver the results to get GMs drooling. And with only 1 year left before UFA with a $6.25 M cap hit? You'd be lucky to get a middling prospect or a 2nd round pick to dump that salary.

The argument of supply and demand only holds water when the thing you "supply" is what everyone else wants. The only way I can see Edmonton biting is if they had to package Dubnyk up in a deal to trade for someone of significance. In that case, Miller would be a good plan B. But more likely, the only way Buffalo is ridding themselves of that contract is to buy him out or take another bad contract (Horcoff) back in return.

- Centacre



We payed alot for Quick.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
They need a stud on the Blue line. What happened to Myers? Has his play really slipped that much?
- Vukota


He came into this season out of shape after being injured overseas. His immaturity got the best of him. He let it be known next season will be different, we will see.

The Sabres 2 best d-men last year were Ehrhoff and Sekera.
Dwight K. Schrute
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sully sucks, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
We payed alot for Quick.
- Deadmau55

I believe Howard just got a hefty raise as well. And Rask will be due a nice raise too.
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
Q: What do Jimmy Howard, Corey Crawford, Tuuka Rask, and Jonathan Quick all have in common? A: their teams did not pay an arm and a leg for them. Especially with the emergence of Viktor Fasth last year, teams are realizing that you don't have to pay an arm and a leg for a big-name goalie to be successful. In fact, with big names such as Fleury, Ward, Kiprusoff, and Luongo all recently going through some major struggles, most being unseated in their starters spot, it's hard to see why any team would think the way to go would be to pay a kings ransom for a big name in net. Add to that Miller was 18th in save percentage (behind Steve Mason!) and 34th in GAA (Dubnyk was 12th in save percentage and 23rd in GAA) this last season... Bottom line is that most teams are smart enough to pay for results, not for a name. Miller did not deliver the results to get GMs drooling. And with only 1 year left before UFA with a $6.25 M cap hit? You'd be lucky to get a middling prospect or a 2nd round pick to dump that salary.

The argument of supply and demand only holds water when the thing you "supply" is what everyone else wants. The only way I can see Edmonton biting is if they had to package Dubnyk up in a deal to trade for someone of significance. In that case, Miller would be a good plan B. But more likely, the only way Buffalo is ridding themselves of that contract is to buy him out or take another bad contract (Horcoff) back in return.

- Centacre

That's because they had a top goalie coming up through the system.

LA signed Quick for $58M and Detroit signed Howard for $32M. A lot of money.

So if a team needs a goalie for next season, and they don't have access to a promising goalie about 26 years of age not making an arm and a leg, what do they do?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
I was there when the game was made up.
- OneKaneOneCup


so u were banned for an extended period of time and created a new person nice
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
Does this tard ever leave the title to his posts alone?

Once an hour he changes the name? FFS, just leave it the same.........

- ViolentEd1


I find it perplexing why the change in titles bothers people. I barely pay attention to them. Also, when someone uses the word "tard" in their posts they lose all credibility. ViolentEd as a name doesn't score points either.
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
The only untouchable should be Steve Ott. I would wait this year and see how Myers does. If he does not come through. I would buy him out. Only have 2 buyouts and they must be used by next year.
- mikes1519


I'm not sure about your untouchable pick, but I do agree it is smart to wait on the buyout and make the best decision possible.
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:13 PM ET
A Rags fans talking about bad contracts and a Philly fan talking about overrated goalies, where have I seen this before? The irony here is amazing.


ADD: GArth does not represent the thoughs and actions of Sabres fans.

- ImThatGuy


And for our next trick, and Coyotes fan shall appear complaining about nonexistent fanbases.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
And for our next trick, and Coyotes fan shall appear complaining about nonexistent fanbases.
- GOODPLAYA20




Can we get a Habs fan in here talking about having a small weak team.
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
I believe Howard just got a hefty raise as well. And Rask will be due a nice raise too.
- Dwight K. Schrute



But I do see his point.

Pay for the results. Not the name. And if that's the case, then miller won't fetch that much. Something significant, but not as much as people are saying
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
Dp....



Paying him 4m for 9 years? Isnt that his buyout?

- JVince11



24 mil.

Rick DiPietro buyout from CapGeek.com
2013-14: $1,500,000
2014-15: $1,500,000
2015-16: $1,500,000
2016-17: $1,500,000
2017-18: $1,500,000
2018-19: $1,500,000
2019-20: $1,500,000
2020-21: $1,500,000
2021-22: $1,500,000
2022-23: $1,500,000
2023-24: $1,500,000
2024-25: $1,500,000
2025-26: $1,500,000
2026-27: $1,500,000
2027-28: $1,500,000
2028-29: $1,500,000
r2so73
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
'Star Tribune nose for hickey news, Mike Russo'

Thank God there is someone out there with a nose for 'hickey' news......

'Ryan Miller's stick is rising by the day'

TMI, Dude.......


Spell check or proof read much?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
I think nobody is untouchable. Id prefer to not trade Ott but you can find a few of his type for cheap.
mikes1519
Buffalo Sabres
Location: venice, FL
Joined: 10.04.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
I think nobody is untouchable. Id prefer to not trade Ott but you can find a few of his type for cheap.
- hubie




This team needs a leader. Ott is the best choice.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
But I do see his point.

Pay for the results. Not the name. And if that's the case, then miller won't fetch that much. Something significant, but not as much as people are saying

- Deadmau55


Miller gives results. You dont think Miller would be putting up similar numbers to Quick, Rask, Crawford on those teams? Please.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
24 mil.

Rick DiPietro buyout from CapGeek.com
2013-14: $1,500,000
2014-15: $1,500,000
2015-16: $1,500,000
2016-17: $1,500,000
2017-18: $1,500,000
2018-19: $1,500,000
2019-20: $1,500,000
2020-21: $1,500,000
2021-22: $1,500,000
2022-23: $1,500,000
2023-24: $1,500,000
2024-25: $1,500,000
2025-26: $1,500,000
2026-27: $1,500,000
2027-28: $1,500,000
2028-29: $1,500,000

- dadeadhead


L8
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:20 PM ET
Q: What do Jimmy Howard, Corey Crawford, Tuuka Rask, and Jonathan Quick all have in common? A: their teams did not pay an arm and a leg for them. Especially with the emergence of Viktor Fasth last year, teams are realizing that you don't have to pay an arm and a leg for a big-name goalie to be successful. In fact, with big names such as Fleury, Ward, Kiprusoff, and Luongo all recently going through some major struggles, most being unseated in their starters spot, it's hard to see why any team would think the way to go would be to pay a kings ransom for a big name in net. Add to that Miller was 18th in save percentage (behind Steve Mason!) and 34th in GAA (Dubnyk was 12th in save percentage and 23rd in GAA) this last season... Bottom line is that most teams are smart enough to pay for results, not for a name. Miller did not deliver the results to get GMs drooling. And with only 1 year left before UFA with a $6.25 M cap hit? You'd be lucky to get a middling prospect or a 2nd round pick to dump that salary.

The argument of supply and demand only holds water when the thing you "supply" is what everyone else wants. The only way I can see Edmonton biting is if they had to package Dubnyk up in a deal to trade for someone of significance. In that case, Miller would be a good plan B. But more likely, the only way Buffalo is ridding themselves of that contract is to buy him out or take another bad contract (Horcoff) back in return.

- Centacre





Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:20 PM ET
The only untouchable should be Steve Ott. I would wait this year and see how Myers does. If he does not come through. I would buy him out. Only have 2 buyouts and they must be used by next year.
- mikes1519


Steve Ott is untouchable until next season's trade deadline. He will be traded if he doesn't sign an extension.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:20 PM ET
L8
- theblueandgold



Was sleeping.


Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:21 PM ET
Miller gives results. You dont think Miller would be putting up similar numbers to Quick, Rask, Crawford on those teams? Please.
- theblueandgold



No, it's possible. But not a for sure thing. For example, if I'm giving up a top six forward, top four D, or a high draft pick, I would want a for sure thing. Wouldn't you?
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 24 @ 3:21 PM ET
This team needs a leader. Ott is the best choice.
- mikes1519


agreed. but it cant be Ott. he can keep his A but cant be the captain.

too much responsibility limits his effectiveness. you captain cant be in the penalty box for blowing kisses or licking eye shields then take guys to task in between periods for their poor play. just doesnt work...
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:23 PM ET
so u were banned for an extended period of time and created a new person nice
- hubie

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:24 PM ET

- OneKaneOneCup



ssssshhhh
Dwight K. Schrute
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sully sucks, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:25 PM ET
No, it's possible. But not a for sure thing. For example, if I'm giving up a top six forward, top four D, or a high draft pick, I would want a for sure thing. Wouldn't you?
- Deadmau55

It comes down to need and want. Does a team believe they are Miller away from contending? Maybe. the whole thing is a sell job for Darcy to undertake. Can it happen, sure. Will it, who knows.
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