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robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Expecting some major moves by the draft? Oilers are one of the teams to watch, have a feeling it will be centred around them.
- LeafMan




I think they'll take Nurse


But MacT seems ready to shake things up. Which I welcome


Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Probably. I don't think there is much left in Calgary to fleece.
- TML60



Would love to get Baertschi!
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
i do not want gagner.
- big_dion

X2
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Relax, they are jabbing the Oilers.


All in good spirit.

- robin_steele264


i do think oilers are goona make a deal this season, one of the big forwards..

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Good question, do you think Phaneuf wants another similar contract and will someone actually pay it? If the price was right - say 4.5-5mill per season, I don't think it's a question but you know he will be asking for much more!

On your thought about Bozak - no Brainer. If he would sign for 4.5mill or less, for sure you dump Grabovski. I think Bozak will be looking for 5+ though.

- Cooshie

$6 million a year.

That's my guess.

And yes, at that price, I sign him.

Edit: Oh Lord, let me be clear here - I'm talking about Phaneuf.

I've already written off Bozak.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Anyone else hoping the leafs dont trade for Gagner?
- IrishRage




Yes


fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
if we had a legit top 1 C - yes, id say grabo could be bought out, and i think still it would be a mistake. the guy had 48 bad games, thats it, who gives a poop we made the playoffs because of it. he shouldnt be in that roll though, thats carlyle trying something, it not working, and him realizing it come playoff time...when guess who was flying around out there like a lunatic...grabo.

i agree grabo is over paid, i said it from day one he should have only gotten like 4.5....but hey, at least he plays, gives it hard out there and has produced a lot over the last few seasons...

i aint cutting ties with grabo because he had a bad half season playing with 3rd line players.

- big_dion


He was flying around, getting run over repeatedly, and achieving the worst +/- stats in the entire first round. The facts are he worked hard, yes, but got very little done.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
I dont even care that he had a "bad half season". Either Bozak or Grabbo should be #1 then. Both cant be on the team making 5mil+

If they are, the leafs did not sign and of the decent FA

- senstroll


5million is the going rate for a second line centre nowadays

check on any centre signed as a UFA.. there are a couple bargains but its mostly in line with the rest of the league

also.. dont throw RFA contracts at me as examples.. totally different
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
i do think oilers are goona make a deal this season, one of the big forwards..
- big_dion




I'd be surprised if one of Hall, Ebs, Yak, RNH gets dealt.


Shocked really.


big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
$6 million a year.

That's my guess.

And yes, at that price, I sign him.

- Atomic Wedgie


phaneuf may screw up, but you know..

he logs like 27-32 mins a game, on the PP, PK and vs the big lines...

he brings a lot more to this team than people realize, and id be VERY suprised if dion was moved.

not saying its impossible to happen, anything is possible...but dion brings a lot to this team in terms of chewing up minutes on D.
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
Would love to get Baertschi!
- Cooshie

I've never seen him play. Giordano anyone?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
He was flying around, getting run over repeatedly, and achieving the worst +/- stats in the entire first round. The facts are he worked hard, yes, but got very little done.
- fifty__missions


hilarious!!!!!!!!!!
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
no brainer LOL

no brainer wel just toss 22 millino dollars at our top 2 point producer in last 3 years for bozak to get paid 4.5 million a year...

THAT IS A NO BRAINER ALRIGHT! like...forrest gump brain.


- big_dion


You sound as if the Leafs will be emptying your bank account to pay the last $100 of that 22mill!!

TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yes
- robin_steele264

Everyone else.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
Anyone else hoping the leafs dont trade for Gagner?
- IrishRage

Despite what a lot of people say, Gagner is a good player, he just doesn't fit the Leafs with Grabovski here, if Grabo was gone then it would make a little more sense to bring him in.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
He was flying around, getting run over repeatedly, and achieving the worst +/- stats in the entire first round. The facts are he worked hard, yes, but got very little done.
- fifty__missions

It's the Leafs Fan Syndrome: focus on one thing the guy did well, and cling to it like a drowning man on a life preserver.

Bozak is great at faceoffs!

Komarov threw bodychecks with his 180 lbs. body!

Re-sign these guys for a jillion dollars X 43 years!
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
I'd be surprised if one of Hall, Ebs, Yak, RNH gets dealt.


Shocked really.

- robin_steele264


true, but if the right deal comes along i could see it going down.

if you guys can add a solid D man, goaltender, and center by dealing 1 of them...i could see it being a possibility!

id love any of them but Yak!
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
phaneuf may screw up, but you know..

he logs like 27-32 mins a game, on the PP, PK and vs the big lines...

he brings a lot more to this team than people realize, and id be VERY suprised if dion was moved.

not saying its impossible to happen, anything is possible...but dion brings a lot to this team in terms of chewing up minutes on D.

- big_dion


The question is whether bringing "a lot" to the team in terms of "chewing up minutes" on D is good enough. His game was exposed blatantly in that Boston series.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
phaneuf may screw up, but you know..

he logs like 27-32 mins a game, on the PP, PK and vs the big lines...

he brings a lot more to this team than people realize, and id be VERY suprised if dion was moved.

not saying its impossible to happen, anything is possible...but dion brings a lot to this team in terms of chewing up minutes on D.

- big_dion

Try to imagine a first d pairing of Franson and Liles.

Yeah, now you start to understand how important Dion is.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
It's the Leafs Fan Syndrome: focus on one thing the guy did well, and cling to it like a drowning man on a life preserver.

Bozak is great at faceoffs!

Komarov threw bodychecks with his 180 lbs. body!

Re-sign these guys for a jillion dollars X 43 years!

- Atomic Wedgie


To be fair, that argument cuts both ways.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
true, but if the right deal comes along i could see it going down.

if you guys can add a solid D man, goaltender, and center by dealing 1 of them...i could see it being a possibility!

id love any of them but Yak!

- big_dion




I love them all like my own little children


TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
It's the Leafs Fan Syndrome: focus on one thing the guy did well, and cling to it like a drowning man on a life preserver.

Bozak is great at faceoffs!

Komarov threw bodychecks with his 180 lbs. body!

Re-sign these guys for a jillion dollars X 43 years!

- Atomic Wedgie

Listed at 198 lbs. but carry on.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
5million is the going rate for a second line centre nowadays

check on any centre signed as a UFA.. there are a couple bargains but its mostly in line with the rest of the league

also.. dont throw RFA contracts at me as examples.. totally different

- Dozzer


at least we should know soon...end this madness


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
The question is whether bringing "a lot" to the team in terms of "chewing up minutes" on D is good enough. His game was exposed blatantly in that Boston series.
- fifty__missions

His game wasn't exposed - his lack of help was exposed.

Look at Chara - I can't remember the exact number, but it was something like he was on the ice for 8 of the last 9 Chicago goals (something like that).

Is Chara a bad defenceman?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:35 AM ET
You sound as if the Leafs will be emptying your bank account to pay the last $100 of that 22mill!!
- Cooshie


nonis isnt stupid, it wont happen.
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