Weiss isn't the answer though. I don't want another bandaid. If we're not going to have a real #1, then go with Kadri and Grabo and build the wingers so we can survive till the right one comes.
- Big_Lightnin

i know weiss isnt the answer... in fact thats what ive been saying., if my posts have been followed correctly

Have to be kidding me if you think the other 2 are better options.
- ThePresident

Bozak and Weiss have about the same value to this team. Bozak is younger and has established chemistry. Relatively risk free.

Weiss has a higher proven upside, but he's declining and coming off a terrible year. Riskier in that he'll get more money.

I'd like to insert Boyd Gordon into the last pair and move one of them to wing.
- Big_Lightnin

Grabo the puck hog

i know weiss isnt the answer... in fact thats what ive been saying., if my posts have been followed correctly
- Lee Denault

# Its not Twitter bros

So you think Bozak Kadri is better than Weiss Kadri? Grabovski Kadri is better than Weiss Kadri?
- ThePresident

yes. You are overrating weiss.

Maybe we should keep Vinny for #1C instead of Buying him out! Has there been anything about that Tampa/Toronto deal since JJ talked about it??

I'd like to insert Boyd Gordon into the last pair and move one of them to wing.
- Big_Lightnin

Can we nickname him "The Comissioner?"

Bozak and Weiss have about the same value to this team. Bozak is younger and has established chemistry. Relatively risk free.

Weiss has a higher proven upside, but he's declining and coming off a terrible year. Riskier in that he'll get more money.
- Leeman4Gilmour

I believe he'd have a better season statistical wise than he's had in a few years, playing in between Lupul and Kessel. A much better playmaker, with better leadership skills.

It's the most realistic solution, sure I'd prefer other options, but they're not realistic. Weiss is a better option than both Bozak and Grabovski, that's the bottom line. Our team would have a better 1-2 punch than last year.
- ThePresident

not enough better to warrant the salary it will cost plus compliance buyout of Grabo.

JVR-Grabo-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Clarkson

I'll be happy with those lines. And I want to see it.

Lot of talk about Grabo and Kessel being a bad fit, but no proof.

I want to see it in pre-season.
- Big_Lightnin

eh, I'd much rather see Bozak beside Kessel than experiment with Grabo.

Can we nickname him "The Comissioner?"
- Atomic Wedgie

of cours!

yes. You are overrating weiss.
- Lee Denault

Not overrating him at all, I sad its not the best, but most realistic option, an improvement over last year. You're overrating Bozak and Grabovski, greatly.

Joe Thorton to the Sharks is the exception
- PinkSock

Ironically, he mentioned Sundin, as well. I realize this was a while ago, but it's another example of a traded #1 center.

There have to be more recent examples.

eh, I'd much rather see Bozak beside Kessel than experiment with Grabo.
- Boosinicka

Grabo is better than Bozak at every aspect of the game except faceoffs, and the difference isn't enough to make up for the other areas.

#1 and #2 are Kadri and Grabbo - not neccessarily in that order.

#3 and #4 are McClement and Colborne - not neccessarily in that order.
- Atomic Wedgie

What if a team just said "Screw it" and did this?

What if one of the big market teams just decided to drop 90 million on salaries? Would they be punished with lost draft picks?

I'd be inclined to say "So what?" if you could stack your team.
- Leeman4Gilmour

NHL just wouldn't approve the contracts

Not overrating him at all, I sad its not the best, but most realistic option, an improvement over last year. You're overrating Bozak and Grabovski, greatly.
- ThePresident

neagtive. Bozak and weiss are the same. and weiss isnt that much of an upgrade over grabo.

not enough better to warrant the salary it will cost plus compliance buyout of Grabo.
- Big_Lightnin

Grabo is tradeable I think, and Weiss will come to the Leafs for 4.5 in my opinion. He doesn't exactly have negotiation power given his season last year, and the fact he wants to be signed by the Leafs.

Ironically, he mentioned Sundin, as well. I realize this was a while ago, but it's another example of a traded #1 center.

There have to be more recent examples.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Sundin wasn't a #1C when he was traded

Ironically, he mentioned Sundin, as well. I realize this was a while ago, but it's another example of a traded #1 center.

There have to be more recent examples.
- Leeman4Gilmour

sundin was still pretty damn young when he was traded.. and it was a very different era

Ironically, he mentioned Sundin, as well. I realize this was a while ago, but it's another example of a traded #1 center.

There have to be more recent examples.
- Leeman4Gilmour

try to find it.

There aren't any

question. there will be be some shifting around but we generally got an idea of what our top 9 looks like. what does our 4th line look like?

McLaren-McClement-Orr?

I miss Komarov was my favorite Leaf this season

neagtive. Bozak and weiss are the same. and weiss isnt that much of an upgrade over grabo.
- Lee Denault

Overrating Bozak. Don't know how we forget how much he has sucked, he wins a few faceoffs and suddenly he's awesome.

Is a poster bringing up Sundin being traded from the nordiques as an attempt to refute my claim?

try to find it.

There aren't any
- Lee Denault

I thought Brad Richards was traded to Dallas. Can't remember.