8 points in one night, he must be pretty good.
- bixll

red bull it makes u get points .......

World IIHF 2011, Reimer > Bernier.

Just saying. If he wasn't injured in 2006 he may have been a first round selection as well. For some reason coaches and management don't like him. Maybe competitive nature or lack of it, being as friendly as he is??? Can anyone figure it out? The kid works hard.
- stevecarpetman

he played mostly for losing teams throughout his junior hockey career, and in a lesser known market... not a big name program.

the jee whiz attitude shouldn't scare anyone away... I think its great the kid has the convictions he does and isn't intimidated to show it.

He is. He cares. Many Oil fans want him to be captain


I think they'll keep him around anyways.
- robin_steele264

The only way Oilers move him is for a deal they couldn't possibly refuse. Eventually the cap could be an issue, but not right now. Gagner seems like that second line centre many teams would want...including the Leafs, but Leafs have to get rid of one of the 2 (arguably 3) 2C they already have.

Kane, Subban, McDonaugh, Sutter, Couture, Patchioretty, Vorachek, JVR, Turris, Shattenkirk, Perron, Simmonds, Benn, Alzner


Apparently, from this list... only 1 guy is better than Gagner.

Why would a team trade for him (I'll remind you - they could have had him for free last year when he was put on waivers) when they know they can just sign him for peanuts as soon as the Leafs buy him out?

As per what someone else said, he'll get a tryout with the Islanders next year. If he catches on (and I sincerely doubt it) he'll sign for 1 year X $1 million.

He's simply too slow to play in today's NHL.
- Atomic Wedgie

We all know there are far less moves done in-season...so the waiver thing means nothing to me. As I said, there are teams who are very thin on the backend AND need the $4.5m Cap hit. Signing him in 2 weeks for a million doesn't help them in that way.

Also, a trade allows us to pay part of his salary, whereas a waiver claim doesn't.

I'm under no illusions about his abilities, but I just think there are financial reason where it could make sense.

Why would a team trade for him (I'll remind you - they could have had him for free last year when he was put on waivers) when they know they can just sign him for peanuts as soon as the Leafs buy him out?

As per what someone else said, he'll get a tryout with the Islanders next year. If he catches on (and I sincerely doubt it) he'll sign for 1 year X $1 million.

He's simply too slow to play in today's NHL.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'll bet he finds a home somewhere for league min and overachieves. Seems to happen to a lot of guys once they drop the stigma of having a terrible contract.

I still think Bozak would be better off taking 3.5-4 now and living up to it than 5 and being a total albatross that gets booted around the league.

You're probably right. But I know there's worse guys in the NHL right now. Sh!t...Wade Redden got post-season minutes.

But to waste a Compliance on the guy is a mistake, IMO. Unless we have an immediate and specific use for the Cap space, and no other way to make it, it's a complete waste to use it.
- djamon

they need the space. Leafs aren't in bad cap shape, but it's not as great as everybody thinks. wasting $2.1M or $3.5M on Komi next year is needless.

Liles I'd say is tradeable. Komi is not.

It feels like we've had Tucker's cap hit on the books for an eternity.

Can somebody explain to me why JFJ was permitted to (frank) us over for the next decade with his incompetence?

After it. became clear he was a moron, why was he allowed to make decisions with long term implications? What would have been the harm in playing Tucker for a couple more years?

We we so close to being contenders in 2007 that we needed to clear his salary off the books and open up a spot for one of our amazing prospects?

Odds are he would have hurt himself trying to kill Chara or something and his money would be off the books.
- Leeman4Gilmour

next year/season is the last year of his buyout.

Not terrible, IMO. But does the 7th really have THAT much value? I hate Grabs right now, but I think we're still hoping he'll bounce back next year into a productive player. Prior to this year he's been better than Gagner.

I think Gardiner has a huge ceiling.
- djamon

I'd just be happy to be rid of his contract. Unless Grabo fills a number one Centre role he has no value on this team unfortunately. Kadri slots as number 2C, a UFA/trade slots number 1C meaning Grabovski has got to go.

JVR - Gagner - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson

Sounds good to me

The only way Oilers move him is for a deal they couldn't possibly refuse. Eventually the cap could be an issue, but not right now. Gagner seems like that second line centre many teams would want...including the Leafs, but Leafs have to get rid of one of the 2 (arguably 3) 2C they already have.
- Woderwick

Yup.


Just watching the hockeycentral guys and they all wouldn't do the Gagner for Phaneuf deal, from an Oilers perspective.


Interestingly enough.

they need the space. Leafs aren't in bad cap shape, but it's not as great as everybody thinks. wasting $2.1M or $3.5M on Komi next year is needless.

Liles I'd say is tradeable. Komi is not.
- Big_Lightnin

and playable.

they need the space. Leafs aren't in bad cap shape, but it's not as great as everybody thinks. wasting $2.1M or $3.5M on Komi next year is needless.

Liles I'd say is tradeable. Komi is not.
- Big_Lightnin

Yeah...all the RFA's are definitely a wildcard. But don't you think the real problem with this team's Cap situation is Grabs' contract and not Komi's?

Yup.


Just watching the hockeycentral guys and they all wouldn't do the Gagner for Phaneuf deal, from an Oilers perspective.


Interestingly enough.
- robin_steele264

whoa... the media doesn't have nice things to say about Toronto?

*swoons*

I'd just be happy to be rid of his contract. Unless Grabo fills a number one Centre role he has no value on this team unfortunately. Kadri slots as number 2C, a UFA/trade slots number 1C meaning Grabovski has got to go.

JVR - Gagner - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson

Sounds good to me
- steve362

Jesus....who do you expect to get that's better?

Yup.


Just watching the hockeycentral guys and they all wouldn't do the Gagner for Phaneuf deal, from an Oilers perspective.


Interestingly enough.
- robin_steele264

i dont think that trade helps either team, seems like a lose lose unless more pieces are involved in both directions

Yup.


Just watching the hockeycentral guys and they all wouldn't do the Gagner for Phaneuf deal, from an Oilers perspective.


Interestingly enough.
- robin_steele264

How is Gagner on faceoffs?

Yup.


Just watching the hockeycentral guys and they all wouldn't do the Gagner for Phaneuf deal, from an Oilers perspective.


Interestingly enough.
- robin_steele264

And ridiculous.

I wouldnt say pretty good...it might still be close

If they sign these players

Kadri
Colborne
Mclaren
Gunnarson
Bernier
Franson
Fraser

It gives them 18 players signed. I am guessing it takes 15-16mil to sign the above players

say 16, that leaves 7 to sign Free agents
- senstroll

buyout or trade Liles... adds almost 4M to the available CAP space.
if they are signing Franson to 3.0 - 3.5 then Gunnarson has to go.
Fraser, go love him - isn't going to get more than 1.0 - 1.2 for a 2/3 year deal.
Mclaren should be taking Orr's money (in my opinion) - we don't need both, particularly if they sign Clarkson/Clowe up front.


that's why not buying out or moving Grabovski is a two-fold problem - it prevents them from signing Bozak - and means that Nonis has to keep one of his compliance buyouts just in case.

Kane, Subban, McDonaugh, Sutter, Couture, Patchioretty, Vorachek, JVR, Turris, Shattenkirk, Perron, Simmonds, Benn, Alzner


Apparently, from this list... only 1 guy is better than Gagner.
- Feeling Glucky?

Hmmmm. Only one has produced more... Did someone say that and you interpreted it this way?

How is Gagner on faceoffs?
- steve362

Not as good as Bozak

Yup.


Just watching the hockeycentral guys and they all wouldn't do the Gagner for Phaneuf deal, from an Oilers perspective.


Interestingly enough.
- robin_steele264

The Hockeycentral guys have never been high on Phaneuf.

They're entertaining if you like fake rumors, but I tuned out MacLean a long time ago. I thought Kypreos had some sense until he suggested Kessel for Luongo a couple months ago.

That's a guy with absolutely no sense of the general hockey climate.

Yup.


Just watching the hockeycentral guys and they all wouldn't do the Gagner for Phaneuf deal, from an Oilers perspective.


Interestingly enough.
- robin_steele264

Is that the Western Edition?
I don't watch Sportsnet that much anymore but I know they have the Western version of a lot of shoes. Not sure Hockey Central is the same...or is it Kypper and co?

And ridiculous.
- djamon

Dions contract situation comes into play

Yeah...all the RFA's are definitely a wildcard. But don't you think the real problem with this team's Cap situation is Grabs' contract and not Komi's?
- djamon

no.

Grabo can actually play. And he is much better than this year. Keep in mind he was put into an entirely different role than he's played his entire career, and he was pretty sick for most of the season.

Komi's is a waste of cap, pure and simple. $3.6M cap just wasted that could spend on somebody who actually plays a game.

Hmmmm. Only one has produced more... Did someone say that and you interpreted it this way?
- robin_steele264

somebody said he's the second best player from his draft. In the oilers thread.