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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 24 @ 3:13 PM ET
He's a lot better than anyone gives him credit for.
- robin_steele264


8 points in one night, he must be pretty good.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 3:13 PM ET
Roster size: 11
Cap Ceiling: $64,300,000
Payroll: $41,416,667
Bonuses: $300,000
Space: $23,183,333

23 000 000 for 12 players.

Pretty good.

- Feeling Glucky?


I wouldnt say pretty good...it might still be close

If they sign these players

Kadri
Colborne
Mclaren
Gunnarson
Bernier
Franson
Fraser

It gives them 18 players signed. I am guessing it takes 15-16mil to sign the above players

say 16, that leaves 7 to sign Free agents

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:13 PM ET
Surely the guy can be traded for a 7th rounder? Save the Compliance Buyouts...they'll be gold in 2014.
- djamon

Why would a team trade for Komi?

He cleared waivers earlier this year.

He isn't good enough to play in the NHL.

And he has a $4.5 million cap hit.

He's simply not good enough any more to play in the NHL.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
Is Gagner actually any good? Any indepth analysis on the guy? What's his potential?
- ThePresident


He's at it right now. The guy has played 6 full seasons in the NHL with some decent linemates and has scored at the same pace as Bozak.

I almost sh!t my pants when the Sportsnet fools said it would take more than Dion to get him from the Oilers. They've been trying to trade him for literally 3 years.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
He's a lot better than anyone gives him credit for.
- robin_steele264

but not good enough to warrant paying him $4M+ on the same team with Grabo and Kadri. Too many small centers.
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
He's a lot better than anyone gives him credit for.
- robin_steele264


Is he capable of becoming a ppg player? A #1 centerman? Is he good on faceoffs?
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
Is Gagner actually any good? Any indepth analysis on the guy? What's his potential?
- ThePresident


Gagner is good, he's in his 7th season at 24, so still developing. He's small tho, him and kadri play different style of a game at center but similar skill level.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
He's at it right now. The guy has played 6 full seasons in the NHL with some decent linemates and has scored at the same pace as Bozak.

I almost sh!t my pants when the Sportsnet fools said it would take more than Dion to get him from the Oilers. They've been trying to trade him for literally 3 years.

- djamon




What?


bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
Why would a team trade for Komi?

He cleared waivers earlier this year.

He isn't good enough to play in the NHL.

And he has a $4.5 million cap hit.

He's simply not good enough any more to play in the NHL.

- Atomic Wedgie



He was never the same after Lucic punched him out when he was a Hab.
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
He's at it right now. The guy has played 6 full seasons in the NHL with some decent linemates and has scored at the same pace as Bozak.

I almost sh!t my pants when the Sportsnet fools said it would take more than Dion to get him from the Oilers. They've been trying to trade him for literally 3 years.

- djamon


He is only 23, seems to up his point total every season.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
Yes we can, but it obviously goes against the Cap which makes the savings insignificant.

Mike Komisarek buyout from CapGeek.com
2013-14: $2,166,667
2014-15: $1,166,667

- djamon


you'r reading it wrong.

it's $1.166 both years.

you quoted the cap savings

EDIT: me, nevermind
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
Why would a team trade for Komi?

He cleared waivers earlier this year.

He isn't good enough to play in the NHL.

And he has a $4.5 million cap hit.

He's simply not good enough any more to play in the NHL.

- Atomic Wedgie


I disagree. There are teams who need the Cap hit, he's only being paid $3.5m. He's definitely good enough to take a flyer on and throw on the bottom pair for one year. The cost of a 7th rounder is almost non-existent.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
It feels like we've had Tucker's cap hit on the books for an eternity.

Can somebody explain to me why JFJ was permitted to (frank) us over for the next decade with his incompetence?

After it. became clear he was a moron, why was he allowed to make decisions with long term implications? What would have been the harm in playing Tucker for a couple more years?

We we so close to being contenders in 2007 that we needed to clear his salary off the books and open up a spot for one of our amazing prospects?

Odds are he would have hurt himself trying to kill Chara or something and his money would be off the books.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
Is he capable of becoming a ppg player? A #1 centerman? Is he good on faceoffs?
- ThePresident


Unlikely, too small and doesn't play tough. And i don't know the numbers but face offs were poor, only Horcoff could win one on that team.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
Is he capable of becoming a ppg player? A #1 centerman? Is he good on faceoffs?
- ThePresident




70 point potential I could see.

He's improved in all 'non-scoring' areas of the game as well over the past couple years.

He's also around 200lbs which apparently is small.

Hes all heart.

Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
Is he capable of becoming a ppg player? A #1 centerman? Is he good on faceoffs?
- ThePresident


No, No, and not really, no.

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
you'r reading it wrong.

it's $1.166 both years.

you quoted the cap savings

- Big_Lightnin

I don't think that the payouts are the same as the cap hits.

I seem to recall the cap hits follow what his cap hit would have been.

Give me ten minutes.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
you'r reading it wrong.

it's $1.166 both years.

you quoted the cap savings

- Big_Lightnin


Nope. Just go to the page...you'll see.

http://www.capgeek.com/bu...&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=24#
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
you'r reading it wrong.

it's $1.166 both years.

you quoted the cap savings

- Big_Lightnin


No he quoted "BUYOUT CAP HIT"
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
70 point potential I could see.

He's improved in all 'non-scoring' areas of the game as well over the past couple years.

He's also around 200lbs which apparently is small.

Hes all heart.

- robin_steele264


for a #1C? yes, it is.

Bozak is 6'1, 195lbs, and yes, he is small.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
Unlikely, too small and doesn't play tough. And i don't know the numbers but face offs were poor, only Horcoff could win one on that team.
- Boosinicka




He's added a lot of grit to his game

Fights now and then too. Whatever role he's asked to play he will.


Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
Nope. Just go to the page...you'll see.

http://www.capgeek.com/bu...&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=24#

- djamon


Oh for (frank)s sakes... my bad

then absolutely it's a bad move. Compliance him.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
He is only 23, seems to up his point total every season.
- ThePresident


His best point total was his first year.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
70 point potential I could see.

He's improved in all 'non-scoring' areas of the game as well over the past couple years.

He's also around 200lbs which apparently is small.

Hes all heart.

- robin_steele264


Figures talking about the oilers would pry you out I agree with your assessment, but had no idea he was 200lbs, does not look or play like it. Your right tho, kids got heart.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
for a #1C? yes, it is.

Bozak is 6'1, 195lbs, and yes, he is small.

- Big_Lightnin




I think he's best suited for a 2C role


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