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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:16 PM ET
The buyout period is the 48 hours after cup final ends?
- Slimtj100


that's when it starts, and finished July 4th
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 4:17 PM ET
I think they are crazy if they don't buy him out now, it's like playing Russian Roulette with the franchise at this point
- jimbro83

I agree, its just too risky.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:17 PM ET
I agree, its just too risky.
- B2B76


And it will allow you the ability to inject youth and retain Clowe.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
You guys clearly dont know some of these players positions'

If we keep MZA and trade Hagelin for Glencross (a trade Im not totally against)... heres what I think the lines should look like...

Nash, Stepan, MZA
Kreider, Richards, Callahan
Glencross, Brassard, Pyatt/Miller
Pyatt/Powe, Boyle, Dorsett

If we trade for Skinner...

Nash, Stepan, MZA/Skinner
Kreider, Ricahrds, Skinner/MZA/Callahan
Glencross, Brassard, Callahan
Pyatt/Powe, Boyle, Dorsett

I think these are the lines we should see.

- aecliptic


I don't know if you were referring to me, but Glencross, Kreider and Skinner are left wingers. Nash played the majority of the year on the right side, and indeed, Torts moved Gaborik out of position to accomodate having Nash on the right wing. Now, you are going to move Nash to the left side to accomodate MZA or Skinner (who doesn't play the right side).

If that was your roster, your top nine forwards are as follows:

LW: Kreider, Glencross and Skinner (also plays center)
Center: Brassard, Richards and Stepan
RW: Nash, Callahan, Zucarello (fixed)

Play with the lines as you will, but those are their natural positions.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:20 PM ET
I think they are crazy if they don't buy him out now, it's like playing Russian Roulette with the franchise at this point
- jimbro83


Just to be clear, because it wasn't in my prior post. If the decision is up to me, I buy him out, because I just stomach the risk. I think, however, that Slats is old, he wants to win soon, and he is going to make a decision (for better or worse) that he thinks is going to give the team the best chance to win now.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:21 PM ET
I don't know if you were referring to me, but Glencross, Kreider and Skinner are left wingers. Nash played the majority of the year on the right side, and indeed, Torts moved Gaborik out of position to accomodate having Nash on the right wing. Now, you are going to move Nash to the left side to accomodate MZA or Skinner (who doesn't play the right side).

If that was your roster, your top nine forwards are as follows:

LW: Kreider, Glencross and Skinner (also plays center)
Center: Brassard, Richards and Stepan
RW: Nash, Callahan, Del Zotto

Play with the lines as you will, but those are their natural positions.

- Pete V


Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:22 PM ET

- Slimtj100


MZA ... MDZ Zucarello or Del Zotto ... It's all the same shat.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:24 PM ET
MZA ... MDZ Zucarello or Del Zotto ... It's all the same shat.
- Pete V

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:25 PM ET

- Slimtj100


Leave it to me to write a post about players natural positions, and put Del Zotto on the right wing ... But hey, perhaps I'm right. Need a guy who can hit the net on the right wing.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:26 PM ET
I don't know if you were referring to me, but Glencross, Kreider and Skinner are left wingers. Nash played the majority of the year on the right side, and indeed, Torts moved Gaborik out of position to accomodate having Nash on the right wing. Now, you are going to move Nash to the left side to accomodate MZA or Skinner (who doesn't play the right side).

If that was your roster, your top nine forwards are as follows:

LW: Kreider, Glencross and Skinner (also plays center)
Center: Brassard, Richards and Stepan
RW: Nash, Callahan, Zucarello (fixed)

Play with the lines as you will, but those are their natural positions.

- Pete V


I could swear Skinner was listed for years as a C/RW... oh well, Im wrong, youre right... :p

Either way... heres the benefit of Skinner... if you buy out Richards... you could also do this..

Glencross, Skinner, Nash
Kreider, Stepan, MZA/Callahan
Clowe, Brassard, Callahan/MZA
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:28 PM ET
Leave it to me to write a post about players natural positions, and put Del Zotto on the right wing ... But hey, perhaps I'm right. Need a guy who can hit the net on the right wing.
- Pete V


I remember in strat o matic guys played both wings and both D sides, it'd be nice to get players more versatile
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:30 PM ET
Lets be real here though, we all know what this is going to come down to... Richards will get bought out either this year or next year and in the 2014 season we have....

Clowe, Thornton, Nash
Kreider, Stepan, MZA/Callahan
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 24 @ 4:30 PM ET
So the caddy was wrong?
- B2B76

More interesting is if Mess gave Richards any insights as to his future status
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
Lets be real here though, we all know what this is going to come down to... Richards will get bought out either this year or next year and in the 2014 season we have....

Sedin, Sedin, Nash
Kreider, Stepan, MZA/Callahan

- aecliptic


Fixed
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
More interesting is if Mess gave Richards any insights as to his future status
- airjan23


What options does Mess really have right now? He's not going to get offer an NHL coaching or GM position this summer, so unless he wants to become an coach in the AHL or Junior hockey, or just leave for the sake of leaving, he's probably going to be back.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
Lets be real here though, we all know what this is going to come down to... Richards will get bought out either this year or next year and in the 2014 season we have....

Clowe, Thornton, Nash
Kreider, Stepan, MZA/Callahan

- aecliptic


Hypothetically, would you trade Brassard for Thornton right now? The Sharks get a younger center and get to move into the future sooner, and the Rangers get bigger and get to unite Thornton with Nash. Then you buy-out Richards, play Miller at the third line center, and use Brassard's $3.5 million to sign or trade for winger.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:37 PM ET
More interesting is if Mess gave Richards any insights as to his future status
- airjan23


As much as I would want Messier as an assistant coach I have a feeling his status in this organization will supersede Vignault and might cause a lot of friction between the 2.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
Hypothetically, would you trade Brassard for Thornton right now? The Sharks get a younger center and get to move into the future sooner, and the Rangers get bigger and get to unite Thornton with Nash. Then you buy-out Richards, play Miller at the third line center, and use Brassard's $3.5 million to sign or trade for winger.
- Pete V


I dont think we have enough cap room to accommodate Thornton's addition without buying out Richards.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
Hypothetically, would you trade Brassard for Thornton right now? The Sharks get a younger center and get to move into the future sooner, and the Rangers get bigger and get to unite Thornton with Nash. Then you buy-out Richards, play Miller at the third line center, and use Brassard's $3.5 million to sign or trade for winger.
- Pete V


They'd want more I imagine
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
I dont think we have enough cap room to accommodate Thornton's addition without buying out Richards.
- aecliptic


That is what I mean, you buy-out Richards, trade Brassard for Thornton, Richards and Thornton's contracts are pretty much a wash, and you can use Brassard's money to sign a winger.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
That is what I mean, you buy-out Richards, trade Brassard for Thornton, Richards and Thornton's contracts are pretty much a wash, and you can use Brassard's money to sign a winger.
- Pete V


Either to keep Clowe or bring in Ryder.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
That is what I mean, you buy-out Richards, trade Brassard for Thornton, Richards and Thornton's contracts are pretty much a wash, and you can use Brassard's money to sign a winger.
- Pete V


Would you trade Stepan for him? Id have a tough time doing that. Just don't think brassard would be enough.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
Would you trade Stepan for him? Id have a tough time doing that. Just don't think brassard would be enough.
- Slimtj100



aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
Would you trade Stepan for him? Id have a tough time doing that. Just don't think brassard would be enough.
- Slimtj100


Hell no.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
Hell no.
- aecliptic


Me either
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