Yes, I would not sign him. He's not good enough for today's NHL to play top six minutes and he's useless on a 3rd or 4th line. The notion that there is some team out there who is ready to jump on a Zuccs acquisition at the deadline is really reaching IMHO.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Time will tell I guess.

What did he do to not warrant a shot to play?

When he was out there, the team played visibly better.
- aecliptic

Cant argue that, but he couldnt stay on the ice. Im not blaming him for that but id rather put that money back to our RFA's

If they did bring him back i wouldnt want him back for any more then one year. And i wouldnt want to waste that extra pick on him for a one year deal.

Time will tell I guess.
- Pete V

Yes, I know they are talking about bringing him back, I feel he doesn't make the team better. I do like the idea of bringing Clowe back, I'd give Asham another shot and I'd bring in Hendricks. Along with Dorsett, it would give them better options for the 3rd and 4th lines.

It was unclear because Oldschool's post didn't quote, but I was talking about Zucarello. I just think it would be bad move to simply not sign him, because Mats Zucarello locked in for less than $1.5 million a year would have trade value.
- Pete V

I guess I mixed conversations, why not keep Zucc? He proved he can be a more than serviceable NHL player.

Yes, I know they are talking about bringing him back, I feel he doesn't make the team better. I do like the idea of bringing Clowe back, I'd give Asham another shot and I'd bring in Hendricks. Along with Dorsett, it would give them better options for the 3rd and 4th lines.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I am much higher on Zucarello than you are, but I do fear that the Rangers lineup next year, as presently constituted, maybe has to many of the same type players -- i.e., skilled puck distributors, not enough snipers and grit. I am fine with bringing Clowe back, but not anywhere near his rumored asking price at the deadline. That would be crazy, I like Hendricks at around the price of Boyle, and I actually don't think Asham is too bad of a player (I'm in the minority on that one). I can do without Powe and Pyatt, although I don't really dislike either player -- they are just the guys that would go in my view to upgrade the bottom six.

Yes, I know they are talking about bringing him back, I feel he doesn't make the team better. I do like the idea of bringing Clowe back, I'd give Asham another shot and I'd bring in Hendricks. Along with Dorsett, it would give them better options for the 3rd and 4th lines.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

If it was up to me... this is what I would have to start the season

Kreider, Stepan, Nash
Hagelin, Brassard, Ryder
Clowe, Boyle, Callahan
Pyatt, Hendricks, Dorsett

The difficulty with this is JT Miller and Fast. If we signed Ryder, Miller has no shot getting on the wing... resigning Clowe, Fast has no shot to get on the LW for a couple years respectively.

I am much higher on Zucarello than you are, but I do fear that the Rangers lineup next year, as presently constituted, maybe has to many of the same type players -- i.e., skilled puck distributors, not enough snipers and grit. I am fine with bringing Clowe back, but not anywhere near his rumored asking price at the deadline. That would be crazy, I like Hendricks at around the price of Boyle, and I actually don't think Asham is too bad of a player (I'm in the minority on that one). I can do without Powe and Pyatt, although I don't really dislike either player -- they are just the guys that would go in my view to upgrade the bottom six.
- Pete V

I actually like Asham very much, I dont think he gets enough credit for his offensive skills... however with Dorsett, hes pretty much the odd man out.

I guess I mixed conversations, why not keep Zucc? He proved he can be a more than serviceable NHL player.
- MidnightMarauder

Old school thinks he's not good enough to play Top 6 minutes, and is more worthless than t*ts on a bull on the 3rd or 4th line.

I was not a big Zucc fan until he came back from Russia this year. I think he played real well for the Rangers down the stretch, but I understand the argument that he may not be the best fit for the current roster, if they want to get bigger and more scoring on the wing. I just think he would have trade value, and I wouldn't just let him walk as an RFA. I would sign him, as I think he is an asset that be used either on the ice for the Rangers, or as a trade chip.

If it was up to me... this is what I would have to start the season

Kreider, Stepan, Nash
Hagelin, Brassard, Ryder
Clowe, Boyle, Callahan
Pyatt, Hendricks, Dorsett

The difficulty with this is JT Miller and Fast. If we signed Ryder, Miller has no shot getting on the wing... resigning Clowe, Fast has no shot to get on the LW for a couple years respectively.
- aecliptic

Move Boyle to the Wing on the fourth line. And find a third line center with more offensive ability (if the cap allows). Not enough offense from Boyle and Hendricks at the third and fourth line pivots.

I am much higher on Zucarello than you are, but I do fear that the Rangers lineup next year, as presently constituted, maybe has to many of the same type players -- i.e., skilled puck distributors, not enough snipers and grit. I am fine with bringing Clowe back, but not anywhere near his rumored asking price at the deadline. That would be crazy, I like Hendricks at around the price of Boyle, and I actually don't think Asham is too bad of a player (I'm in the minority on that one). I can do without Powe and Pyatt, although I don't really dislike either player -- they are just the guys that would go in my view to upgrade the bottom six.
- Pete V

Just look at the war the Hawks and Bruins just had, we couldn't play with those clubs in a 7 game series. That's why I want them to fill our top six another sniper wouldn't hurt. Doesn't have to be a superstar, and of course we don't know Kreider's full contribution yet. Build up the bottom six so the team could handle physical play and if it means moving a couple of players currently on the roster, so be it.

Move Boyle to the Wing on the fourth line. Find a third line center and find a third line center with more offensive ability (if the cap allows). Not enough offense from Boyle and Hendricks at the third and fourth line pivots.
- Pete V

I would not put Boyle on the wing on the 4th line over Dorsett or Pyatt imo. Both are better skaters. Dorestt is much better with the puck. Pyatt is a lot stronger on the boards than Boyle.

As far as the 3rd line Center... Lindberg is the man, no need to make a trade... we got one already.

Just look at the war the Hawks and Bruins just had, we couldn't play with those clubs in a 7 game series. That's why I want them to fill our top six another sniper wouldn't hurt. Doesn't have to be a superstar, and of course we don't know Kreider's full contribution yet. Build up the bottom six so the team could handle physical play and if it means moving a couple of players currently on the roster, so be it.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Michael Ryder, hes not overly expensive, and hes good for 25 goals.

If it was up to me... this is what I would have to start the season

Kreider, Stepan, Nash
Hagelin, Brassard, Ryder
Clowe, Boyle, Callahan
Pyatt, Hendricks, Dorsett
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The difficulty with this is JT Miller and Fast. If we signed Ryder, Miller has no shot getting on the wing... resigning Clowe, Fast has no shot to get on the LW for a couple years respectively.
- aecliptic

I actually like this team much more than any other I've seen, much closer to what's needed to compete.

I would not put Boyle on the wing on the 4th line over Dorsett or Pyatt imo. Both are better skaters. Dorestt is much better with the puck. Pyatt is a lot stronger on the boards than Boyle.

As far as the 3rd line Center... Lindberg is the man, no need to make a trade... we got one already.
- aecliptic

With Lindberg, Fast and Miller all looking to take the next step, do the Rangers have room for all of those guys? I don't think so, and if not, does one of them end up in a trade package?

I actually like this team much more than any other I've seen, much closer to what's needed to compete.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Yeah, its definetely pretty good. I'm not huge on Ryder, but I understand the idea. I just wouldn't go crazy with his contract.

With Lindberg, Fast and Miller all looking to take the next step, do the Rangers have room for all of those guys? I don't think so, and if not, does one of them end up in a trade package?
- Pete V

Maybe a package with MDZ for PP quarterback? This is all predicated on buying out Richards.

Maybe a package with MDZ for PP quarterback? This is all predicated on buying out Richards.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

apparently rangers are looking at marek zidlicky? another possible candidate is ryan whitney.

Maybe a package with MDZ for PP quarterback? This is all predicated on buying out Richards.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I want Yandle so bad.

MDZ, MZA, Fast... something... for Yandle.

apparently rangers are looking at marek zidlicky? another possible candidate is ryan whitney.
- TheRussian

Neither one has a shot from the point. Plus Zidlicky is ancient.

I want Yandle so bad.

MDZ, MZA, Fast... something... for Yandle.
- aecliptic

Staal for Byfuglian? Trade the bad eye for the weight problem.

Neither one has a shot from the point. Plus Zidlicky is ancient.
- aecliptic

i thought whitney wouldnt be bad. only 30 and has been injured which is why his numbers have declined but i remember him being a stud early on with the penguins

i thought whitney wouldnt be bad. only 30 and has been injured which is why his numbers have declined but i remember him being a stud early on with the penguins
- TheRussian

You hear whether the Sharks are going to move Thornton? I heard they are likely going to put him on the block, because they want to turn the page and start getting younger.

You hear whether the Sharks are going to move Thornton? I heard they are likely going to put him on the block, because they want to turn the page and start getting younger.
- Pete V

Brassard, St. Croix and something for Thornton!

You hear whether the Sharks are going to move Thornton? I heard they are likely going to put him on the block, because they want to turn the page and start getting younger.
- Pete V

both thornton AND marleau are going on the block. if they were to trade joe they would need 2 prospects and a 1st rounder. for marleau it would be a roster player, draft pick and prospect. if any trades were to happen the sharks would also include an AHL player and picks to even things out

Brassard, St. Croix and something for Thornton!
- aecliptic

please tell me thats a joke