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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
Bryz will be backup for Bob next year.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
Bryz out.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675163

- Pat MaGroin


With the cap ceiling coming down. With Briere and Bryzgalov moving on. With the loss of small minor contracts such as Shelley, Fedetanko, Lilja, Walker, Knuble, Gagne and then with the signing of Mark Streit,what does this leave us left over with?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
Bryz will be backup for Bob next year.
- feelingkettle

If this happens, I will lose every ounce of poop I ever shat
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
If your going to move up it shouldnt be to select Monohan. The only reason to move up IMO would be for any of the top 5. Other then that, IMO we either don't need them, or would be better served staying at 11.

Example: I would rather draft Rist or Pullock then move up to take Nurse.

We do not need to move up to get a player like Monohan when we have Schenn, Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, and Cousins... It would be a waist of assetts. As a matter of fact if Monohan dropped to us, I would be okay trading down 1-2 spots if the return was favorable.

- youarewrong


I feel likewise. Just someone mention drafting Monahan and I was curious what the ramification would be regarding other centers. The Flyers do seem to draft best available so June 30 will be interesting.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:09 PM ET
After seeing that TSN video on Nurse (right side), and his Jagr-ish work ethic, I'm kind of starting to warm up to the kid.
- Tomahawk


What about his hockey IQ, though? Does he have it? If not, you can have all the tools in the world and never progress beyond a #4 guy in the NHL.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
With the cap ceiling coming down. With Briere and Bryzgalov moving on. With the loss of small minor contracts such as Shelley, Fedetanko, Lilja, Walker, Knuble, Gagne and then with the signing of Mark Streit,what does this leave us left over with?
- dingo8urbaby


I believe roughly 9 million with Pronger on LTIR, but I could be wrong. Though Pronger's 4.9 hit is with us all summer until the start of the year.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
Bryz will be backup for Bob next year.
- feelingkettle


I guess they didn't feel like waiting for a replacement first, as was rumored.

I'll bet they get a cheap scrub backup, someone like Cedric Desjardins, and put Mason through the wringer next year.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
Dear Homer,

Please find a goalie that will not be laughed at on national television.
Thanks!

The Fans...
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
I believe roughly 9 million with Pronger on LTIR, but I could be wrong. Though Pronger's 4.9 hit is with us all summer until the start of the year.
- Pat MaGroin

I believe we get a full 10% over the cap hit over the summer as well... But that balances with the fact you can't LTIR Pronger's money in the summer either... So basically it's a wash.
I'll let the number crunchers get to work.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
I guess they didn't feel like waiting for a replacement first, as was rumored.

I'll bet they get a cheap scrub backup, someone like Cedric Desjardins, and put Mason through the wringer next year.

- tangent_man

I blame Tangent_Man for all of Mason's problems going forward...
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
I guess they didn't feel like waiting for a replacement first, as was rumored.

I'll bet they get a cheap scrub backup, someone like Cedric Desjardins, and put Mason through the wringer next year.

- tangent_man


Or they have a plan that just hasn't been announced yet.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
I blame Tangent_Man for all of Mason's problems going forward...
- FlyersGrace


...wonderful.


mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:16 PM ET
If this happens, I will lose every ounce of poop I ever shat
- Giroux_Is_God

Were you keeping it some where for some reason?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:16 PM ET
Or they have a plan that just hasn't been announced yet.
- bradleyc4


I was thinking that, too. Hoping, actually.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
Maybe Bill was waiting for this to break to post his blog.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
Thank god bryz is out... My master plan stated back in jAnuary is almost complete. Just need to trade coots or picks for our #1 dmAn.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
I was thinking that, too. Hoping, actually.
- tangent_man

Shhhhh... it's Ray Emery.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
Randy Miller
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:20 PM ET
Were you keeping it some where for some reason?
- mayorofangrytown

I was keeping it in the event Bryz becomes Bob's backup.

Duhh!

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:21 PM ET
Or they have a plan that just hasn't been announced yet.
- bradleyc4

mtc
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:21 PM ET
Shhhhh... it's Ray Emery.
- mayorofangrytown


Just said that in the new thread.

Come on over, the water's fine.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:27 PM ET
Wow. That is a good one. Never heard that before.

The forwards arent the problem. They have/had plenty of players capable of playing 2 ways. Couturier, Read, Talbot, Rinaldo, Fedotenko, Gagne, Schenn, Voracek.

Only guys I see as being a liability are/were Briere, Hartnell, Simmonds, and maybe Giroux... though he is capable of playing a decent defensive game when not pressing attack.

The reason they were out of position a lot of the time was because the defenseman often lost assignments, or coughed up the puck, or couldn't clear the puck.

It is nothing the Gagner would solve. A faster defense capable of moving the puck will help.

I am right.

- youarewrong


If the puck isn't in the defensive zone, it won't stay in the defensive zone. The biggest problem last year was misplaced aggression on the forecheck. We were 3 men deep below the face off dots, when the defenseman would have clear possession of the puck and it took one chip off the boards to clear it against us, with forwards to back them up and take the puck up ice. We were giving teams a clean breakout.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
I believe roughly 9 million with Pronger on LTIR, but I could be wrong. Though Pronger's 4.9 hit is with us all summer until the start of the year.
- Pat MaGroin


I hope he Flyers make the biggest splash they possibly can. Why not? Let's get that Cup for Kimmo Timonen!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
I hope he Flyers make the biggest splash they possibly can. Why not? Let's get that Cup for Kimmo Timonen!
- dingo8urbaby

GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
Randy Miller
- bradleyc4


Terrible. I hope he loses his credentials.
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