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hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 25 @ 12:44 PM ET
Someone go check on Bill.
- youarewrong


Maybe Hockeybuzz CBO'd him......
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:46 PM ET
youarewrong


Im talking more about the others team transition up the ice on our guys, I remember numerous times forwards losing there guy going to the net, or lack of hustle back into our end on the other teams rush...

- Buzzo


Wow. That is a good one. Never heard that before.

The forwards arent the problem. They have/had plenty of players capable of playing 2 ways. Couturier, Read, Talbot, Rinaldo, Fedotenko, Gagne, Schenn, Voracek.

Only guys I see as being a liability are/were Briere, Hartnell, Simmonds, and maybe Giroux... though he is capable of playing a decent defensive game when not pressing attack.

The reason they were out of position a lot of the time was because the defenseman often lost assignments, or coughed up the puck, or couldn't clear the puck.

It is nothing that Gagner would solve. A faster defense capable of moving the puck will help.

I am right.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
Aren't they doing the 1st 3 rounds of draft on Sunday? NHL network says draft starts at 8 pm? Or are they just doing 1st round Sunday night?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
Aren't they doing the 1st 3 rounds of draft on Sunday? NHL network says draft starts at 8 pm? Or are they just doing 1st round Sunday night?
- SMS4016



The entire draft is on Sunday this year... starts 3pm EST.

http://bleacherreport.com...time-tv-schedule-and-more
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:49 PM ET
My thoughts exactly, been pushing Monahan for a while!
- Rocktane


If the Flyers get Monahan would one of the centers have to be moved? We would be pretty deep down the middle, Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, Schenn (though he can play wing) and Monahan if selected.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:49 PM ET
Aren't they doing the 1st 3 rounds of draft on Sunday? NHL network says draft starts at 8 pm? Or are they just doing 1st round Sunday night?
- SMS4016


nhl network starts their coverage 8

the draft starts at 3

In the U.S., NBC Sports Network presents live coverage starting at 3 p.m. ET, while NHL Network in the U.S. continues live late-round coverage starting at 8 p.m. ET.


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:50 PM ET
Gagner is supremely skilled, but he's small, slow-footed, often soft, poor on faceoffs, and his coaches have been careful to line-match him away from tough assignments... how is that an upgrade over any of our current centers (or even Briere, for that matter)?
- Tomahawk


Are you talking about Sam Gagner here or Jon Sim?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:52 PM ET
Are you talking about Sam Gagner here or Jon Sim?
- johndewar



Why does everybody remember Jon Sim being slow? Dude was a burner.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
If the Flyers get Monahan would one of the centers have to be moved? We would be pretty deep down the middle, Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, Schenn (though he can play wing) and Monahan if selected.
- Pat MaGroin


That might depend on how NHL ready the Flyers feel that Monahan is.

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
The entire draft is on Sunday this year... starts 3pm EST.

http://bleacherreport.com...time-tv-schedule-and-more

- Tomahawk

Cool thanks! Didn't think to look at NBC. On the calendar it goes for wife to not bug me for squat all day sunday
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
This Coburn rumor to EDM....

I think Coburn and the Flyers' next 3 2nds for Schultz will get it done
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
That might depend on how NHL ready the Flyers feel that Monahan is.
- johndewar


Good point. I see a lot of comparison with Monahan with Couturier in regards of defensive awareness and some scouts saying even further develop at the same age I guess in offensive capabilities. Would be interesting pick to say the least.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Why does everybody remember Jon Sim being slow? Dude was a burner.
- Tomahawk


Jon Sim probably agrees with your assessment.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
If the Flyers get Monahan would one of the centers have to be moved? We would be pretty deep down the middle, Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, Schenn (though he can play wing) and Monahan if selected.
- Pat MaGroin


If your going to move up it shouldnt be to select Monohan. The only reason to move up IMO would be for any of the top 5. Other then that, IMO we either don't need them, or would be better served staying at 11.

Example: I would rather draft Rist or Pullock then move up to take Nurse.

We do not need to move up to get a player like Monohan when we have Schenn, Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, and Cousins... It would be a waist of assetts. As a matter of fact if Monohan dropped to us, I would be okay trading down 1-2 spots if the return was favorable.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

BYE BYE BRYZ
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
If the Flyers get Monahan would one of the centers have to be moved? We would be pretty deep down the middle, Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, Schenn (though he can play wing) and Monahan if selected.
- Pat MaGroin


If your going to move up it shouldnt be to select Monohan. The only reason to move up IMO would be for any of the top 5. Other then that, IMO we either don't need them, or would be better served staying at 11.

Example: I would rather draft Rist or Pullock then move up to take Nurse.

We do not need to move up to get a player like Monohan when we have Schenn, Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, and Cousins... It would be a waist of assetts. As a matter of fact if Monohan dropped to us, I would be okay trading down 1-2 spots if the return was favorable.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:02 PM ET
Good point. I see a lot of comparison with Monahan with Couturier in regards of defensive awareness and some scouts saying even further develop at the same age I guess in offensive capabilities. Would be interesting pick to say the least.
- Pat MaGroin


This is purely a guess on my part, based on watching this team and how they operate, but if the Flyers drafted a center like Monahan, I'd be certainly checking twitter expecting another (trade) shoe to drop.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
Bryz out.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675163
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
I want Kaberle!

JK I just wanted to be the first jacka$$ to write it here.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
Bryzaster Averted
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

BYE BYE BRYZ

- feelingkettle

link? BTW Kaberle will play goalie if needed.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
Example: I would rather draft Rist or Pullock then move up to take Nurse.
- youarewrong



After seeing that TSN video on Nurse (right side), and his Jagr-ish work ethic, I'm kind of starting to warm up to the kid.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
Bryzaster Averted
- bradleyc4



Never a dull moment!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675163
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http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675163
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675163
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- feelingkettle



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