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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:18 AM ET
???? Where did this come from. I haven't even posted today. I was born in 82 also. Guess I just have an older heart. I like the classics.
- youarewrong

Nothing wrong with liking the classics, yo.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:19 AM ET
Bill's late on his blog today
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:19 AM ET
So coburn and the 11th for 7th overall and a pick or prospect
- griouxmvp2012


If this does happen, I don't expect it to end there, I would bet that 7th and Meszaros would then goto Carolina for the 5th to get Barkov or Nichushkin.

Then I think you see Couturier or Laughton or Read being moved for a defenseman with up-side.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think if the the Av's take McKinnon they flyers are gonna try hard to get into the 2nd spot to take jones I just have a feeling
- griouxmvp2012


I could see Jones dropping as far as #3... like Bouwmeester did in his draft year.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
I think if the the Av's take McKinnon they flyers are gonna try hard to get into the 2nd spot to take jones I just have a feeling
- griouxmvp2012


I cant wait to find out. I am going to be there, and its going to be great. Only thing that would upset me is if they move down. Unless it is to move down while getting Ryan.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
I can't believe all the players we end up trading win Stanley Cups! Sharp, and Richards and Carter, and now Dan Carcillo!??! Dang it Homer, why diddn't you know!!!!
- flyler


I noticed that last night. Carcillo, Handzus, Sharp and Ray Emery.

I was glad to see Zeus and Emery get their names on the cup.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
Or coburn cousins 41st for the 7th
- griouxmvp2012


You just can't wait to trade that package for someone/something can ya?
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
I think if the the Av's take McKinnon they flyers are gonna try hard to get into the 2nd spot to take jones I just have a feeling
- griouxmvp2012


really think Jones is going to fall to 3 or 4 would take a whole lot for the Flyers to move up that far though
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:22 AM ET
They could've had the 8th overall for nothing if they had lost a meaningless game against Ottawa at the end of the season.
- Flyers_01


Blame me, they won that game for me. Got to see Danny's last game as a Flyer, Mason was really sharp.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
I could see Jones dropping as far as #3... like Bouwmeester did in his draft year.
- Tomahawk


Really, he could drop lower. If you believe Tampa loves Nichushkin as much as they say, I could see:

McKinnon
Drouin
Nichushkin
Barkov
Jones

I doubt he will drop this far, but its possible. And I doubt there is nothing the Flyers wont do to get Nashville to trade that 4th overall to get him.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
I noticed that last night. Carcillo, Handzus, Sharp and Ray Emery.

I was glad to see Zeus and Emery get their names on the cup.

- Hextall271


I was glad for all of them actually, Carbomb included.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:24 AM ET
when do we start hearing about CBOs?
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
If this does happen, I don't expect it to end there, I would bet that 7th and Meszaros would then goto Carolina for the 5th to get Barkov or Nichushkin.

Then I think you see Couturier or Laughton or Read being moved for a defenseman with up-side.

- youarewrong


Happy for the Hawks, tough way to lose for the Bruins. Give Chicago 48 hours to celebrate, then the abbreviated season continues into the off-season, which should be fun! Can't wait for Sunday.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
when do we start hearing about CBOs?
- coffee junkie


48 hours after the buzzer last night. So about 1053pm on Wednesday night.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:27 AM ET
I was glad for all of them actually, Carbomb included.
- flyler


I don't think Carcillo gets his name on the Cup. Thought I saw someone tweet that he only played in 23 games (less than half a season), and had no Finals appearances.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:29 AM ET
I noticed that last night. Carcillo, Handzus, Sharp and Ray Emery.

I was glad to see Zeus and Emery get their names on the cup.

- Hextall271



Flyers have done a better job of seeding the rest of the league with talent than winning themselves, that's for sure.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:29 AM ET
Really, he could drop lower. If you believe Tampa loves Nichushkin as much as they say, I could see:

McKinnon
Drouin
Nichushkin
Barkov
Jones

I doubt he will drop this far, but its possible. And I doubt there is nothing the Flyers wont do to get Nashville to trade that 4th overall to get him.

- youarewrong


I have no idea how we'd do it, but if Homer could get into the top 7 or 8 and grab Monahan, I'd be ecstatic. I wouldn't be surprised if we jumped up to #5 if Carolina is looking to deal. Zadarov or Pulock at #11 is what I think realistically will happen.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
You just can't wait to trade that package for someone/something can ya?
- Rocktane

Haha that's a nice package u have to agree
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
Don't get what Edmonton would offer. The 7th is an overpayment. The Flyers need defense as much as Edmonton. I like Jeff Petry but why would Edmonton trade him when they have to upgrade the defense as a whole. I would do Jeff Petry + 7th for Coburn + 11th .
- psuhockey


I would think Petry is more valuable than Coburn. He's basically Coburn, with some offense. He's also younger and cheaper.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:34 AM ET
when do we start hearing about CBOs?
- coffee junkie

I"m guessing Wednesday at Midnight. 48 hrs after the Cup.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
Flyers have done a better job of seeding the rest of the league with talent than winning themselves, that's for sure.
- Tomahawk

They only drafted one of those guys to be fair.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:45 AM ET
They only drafted one of those guys to be fair.
- mayorofangrytown


Sharp, Seidenberg, Gagne, Williams, Richards, Carter, Fraser over the past 4 years... pretty brutal.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:47 AM ET
???? Where did this come from. I haven't even posted today. I was born in 82 also. Guess I just have an older heart. I like the classics.
- youarewrong


I was responding from a post you left last night.

You are wrong though. I have a great appreciation for all kinds of all eras and all types of music. I just have a soft spot for what I grew up listening to and went to high school with.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:48 AM ET
Just want to apologize to Cory Crawford and say I was dead wrong about him.
Didn't think he had what it takes to win a cup.
His performance in the first period last night was truly spectacular.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:50 AM ET
Sharp, Seidenberg, Gagne, Williams, Richards, Carter, Fraser over the past 4 years... pretty brutal.
- Tomahawk

And these are only the drafted players

Mark Recchi, Michael Handzus, Ray Emery, Ben Earger and Dan Carcillo.
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