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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:25 PM ET
They do have a plan. I actually should of stated that. They go for a quick Band-Aid approach. Its win now mode and there's no patience shown within the organization.
- stveshdy

Like when they did that whole rebuild thing? That was just a quick patch-up then?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:25 PM ET
I'm hoping for a discount around what Toems and Kane make, so 6.3/yr. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets 7-7.5.
And that would put the flyers in quite the quandry, imo

- fecondo


I will do back flips if they can get him at 7M per.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 24 @ 11:25 PM ET
47 hours and 54 minutes left in Ilya Bryzgalov's Flyers career
- Jsaquella

this yr or next, buyout is inevitable. hopefully this yr, cause there are enough alternatives and yada, yada, you know the rest.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 24 @ 11:26 PM ET
Toews and his .75 goals per round were amazing
- aightwebang17



F U
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:27 PM ET
Does "bell rung" = code for concussion?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:27 PM ET
Like when they did that whole rebuild thing? That was just a quick patch-up then?
- JAKEw1234


That's one year out of how many?

In the last 10 seasons they go for the patch up job to try and win it (minus trading Richards & Carter).
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:29 PM ET
just for some perspective:

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 3m
Just nine players played in Hawks Cup win three years ago: Toews, Kane, Sharp, Keith, Bolland, Hossa, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson and Bickell.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:30 PM ET
just for some perspective:

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 3m
Just nine players played in Hawks Cup win three years ago: Toews, Kane, Sharp, Keith, Bolland, Hossa, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson and Bickell.

- moylander


Those guys are all their best players. They found a way to keep the core together.

Keith and Seabrook are studs on defense.

The offense speaks for itself.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:31 PM ET
What do you think Giroux's cap hit will be?
- stveshdy


If it's a penny less than $7.5 million, the Flyers get a huge break.

Not only is he averaging more than a point per game over the last three seasons/200-plus games, he's also got 55 points in 50 playoff games.

Those are the guys who get paid, and deservedly so.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:32 PM ET
Why didn't we get Patrick Kane
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:32 PM ET
If it's a penny less than $7.5 million, the Flyers get a huge break.

Not only is he averaging more than a point per game over the last three seasons/200-plus games, he's also got 55 points in 50 playoff games.

Those are the guys who get paid, and deservedly so.

- AllInForFlyers


What is the max deal, I know it is 8 years but what is the $$$ max?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 11:33 PM ET
Bergeron played through broken ribs, torn cartilge and a separated shoulder tonight
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:34 PM ET
Bergeron played through broken ribs, torn cartilge and a separated shoulder tonight
- Jsaquella


#Itsthecupnothingcanstophim
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:36 PM ET
What is the max deal, I know it is 8 years but what is the $$$ max?
- Flyers2821


Don't quote me on this, but I think, repeat THINK, I saw something like $8.9 million.

I could be wrong. I do know that Corey Perry and Ryan Getlaf signed for identical salaries of $8.25 million per, and it could be argued pretty easily that Claude Giroux at 25 years old, heading into (likely) an eight-year deal, is worth Ryan Getzlaf money.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:38 PM ET
Bergeron played through broken ribs, torn cartilge and a separated shoulder tonight
- Jsaquella


Man. I've had bruised ribs and torn cartilage...I can't even imagine what he's going to feel like tomorrow. WOW.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:38 PM ET
Man. I've had bruised ribs and torn cartilage...I can't even imagine what he's going to feel like tomorrow. WOW.
- AllInForFlyers


Take some pain meds and he should be fine.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 24 @ 11:39 PM ET
Bergeron played through broken ribs, torn cartilge and a separated shoulder tonight
- Jsaquella

yea, but he was ineffective and they lost, so big whoop










Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:39 PM ET
Don't quote me on this, but I think, repeat THINK, I saw something like $8.9 million.

I could be wrong. I do know that Corey Perry and Ryan Getlaf signed for identical salaries of $8.25 million per, and it could be argued pretty easily that Claude Giroux at 25 years old, heading into (likely) an eight-year deal, is worth Ryan Getzlaf money.

- AllInForFlyers


Well... whatever it takes you gotta sign Giroux to the 8 year deal. No excuses.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 24 @ 11:39 PM ET
If it's a penny less than $7.5 million, the Flyers get a huge break.

Not only is he averaging more than a point per game over the last three seasons/200-plus games, he's also got 55 points in 50 playoff games.

Those are the guys who get paid, and deservedly so.

- AllInForFlyers

Im sorry, to me it doesn't matter if he's averaging a ppg. He is average, if that, defensively; and if I'm paying out that kind of money I want a guy that plays his heartb all all 3 zones. I know he's trying to get better defensively, but to get that kind of money, to me at least, you have to be one of the premier forwards in all 3 zones. Again, this is all my opinion.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:40 PM ET
First order of business is to get rid of the goalie. Obviously he is a distraction to the team and the players didn't have many good things to say about him (exit interviews) based on "rumors".
- stveshdy


Just can't afford that salary for average play especially with that contract length. Just let that contract go before he slips on a banana peel.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:40 PM ET
I really hope the Flyers find a way to get this kid Darnell Nurse. He is going to be a beast.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:41 PM ET
Im sorry, to me it doesn't matter if he's averaging a ppg. He is average, if that, defensively; and if I'm paying out that kind of money I want a guy that plays his heartb all all 3 zones. I know he's trying to get better defensively, but to get that kind of money, to me at least, you have to be one of the premier forwards in all 3 zones. Again, this is all my opinion.
- fecondo


So what do you do? Not sign him?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:41 PM ET
Take some pain meds and he should be fine.
- stveshdy


Ha! Yeah. That whole "breathing, sitting down and standing up without excruciating pain when you move wrong" is completely overrated!
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:42 PM ET
So what do you do? Not sign him?
- Flyers2821



ha ha thats what I was thinking when I read that
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:42 PM ET
DiGiorno Pizza ‏@DiGiornoPizza 48m
THEY KANE. THEY SHAW. THEY CONQUERED.

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