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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
He can be a good goalie. He can be the next Jim Carey. Hopefully Stolarz can become a franchise goalie, or some combo of Bryz/Mason/mystery goalie B can become the answer.
- jmatchett383


They can still go out and trade for another young goalie that has a lot of potential, too.

Ottawa has Robin Lehner...Maybe he's untouchable, maybe he isn't. The Ducks have several good young goalies.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
How many days until we can O.S. Bernier?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
I think the Flyers need a more agile goaltender, if they're not going to change the way they play.
- bradleyc4


It would be better, but Thomas isn't exactly a technique guy...I'd worry more about rust than his ability to play behind their defense.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:30 AM ET
They can still go out and trade for another young goalie that has a lot of potential, too.

Ottawa has Robin Lehner...Maybe he's untouchable, maybe he isn't. The Ducks have several good young goalies.

- Jsaquella


If they could (somehow) get Gibson without giving up the farm, I'd do it. Same with Jack Campbell. I have a soft spot for Team USA gold medal winning goalies.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:32 AM ET
Good blog. I am not quite sure why the Leafs decided to go get Bernier. I feel like Reimer has proven himself worthy of a chance to be the full time starter.

Also, I won tickets to the NHL Draft via the Devils' lottery thing. I never win stuff like this so I'm pretty pumped. Can't wait for Sunday!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:32 AM ET
Good blog. I am not quite sure why the Leafs decided to go get Bernier. I feel like Reimer has proven himself worthy of a chance to be the full time starter.

Also, I won tickets to the NHL Draft via the Devils' lottery thing. I never win stuff like this so I'm pretty pumped. Can't wait for Sunday!

- NickTheKid87


Awesome. Hope you enjoy it.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:32 AM ET
How many days until we can O.S. Bernier?
- jmatchett383


wouldn't that be awesome.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
Good blog. I am not quite sure why the Leafs decided to go get Bernier. I feel like Reimer has proven himself worthy of a chance to be the full time starter.

Also, I won tickets to the NHL Draft via the Devils' lottery thing. I never win stuff like this so I'm pretty pumped. Can't wait for Sunday!

- NickTheKid87


Make sure you bring a bullhorn and use it to heckle any GM that takes time to thank the city of Newark and the Devils for their hospitality.

Repeating over and over, "STFU and make the pick!!" should suffice.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
They can still go out and trade for another young goalie that has a lot of potential, too.

Ottawa has Robin Lehner...Maybe he's untouchable, maybe he isn't. The Ducks have several good young goalies.

- Jsaquella


Wouldn't be surprised to see another mega trade with Anaheim that would bring Ryan and Hiller to Philly.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:35 AM ET
Make sure you bring a bullhorn and use it to heckle any GM that takes time to thank the city of Newark and the Devils for their hospitality.

Repeating over and over, "STFU and make the pick!!" should suffice.

- Jsaquella


I will lose my voice by the 6th pick.

I also need to find Donavan McNabb.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
If they could (somehow) get Gibson without giving up the farm, I'd do it. Same with Jack Campbell. I have a soft spot for Team USA gold medal winning goalies.
- jmatchett383


That's the thing, I like Bernier, but locking into one guy is part of the Flyers issues when it comes to building a team. The locked into Bryz and ended up bidding against themselves. They could have cast the net wider and had Vokoun or somebody else for less $$ and years.

People lock into a Bernier or Ryan and their worlds collapse when it doesn't happen. That's dumb. There's other options.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
The only way Homer can save face with this whole Bernier debacle is to make a move for Robbie Stevenson. Plain and simple.. the kid is the real deal.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
Good blog. I am not quite sure why the Leafs decided to go get Bernier. I feel like Reimer has proven himself worthy of a chance to be the full time starter.

Also, I won tickets to the NHL Draft via the Devils' lottery thing. I never win stuff like this so I'm pretty pumped. Can't wait for Sunday!

- NickTheKid87

i think nonis wants to lock down the position because the leafs have to keep going forward. they are now expected to make the plyoffs and start doing damage...tons of pressure up there.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:37 AM ET
The only way Homer can save face with this whole Bernier debacle is to make a move for Robbie Stevenson. Plain and simple.. the kid is the real deal.
- jak521


who is he?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:37 AM ET
Wouldn't be surprised to see another mega trade with Anaheim that would bring Ryan and Hiller to Philly.
- NickTheKid87


I still don't get the Bobby Ryan idea. We just had a player )hopefully) blossom into a top-line right wing in Voracek. Bobby Ryan would force him down a line, and while I'm fine with depth at forward, it will cost the Flyers on defense. With Meszaros and Grossmann as question marks right now, I'm not ready to move Coburn and other assets to acquire him.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
who is he?
- flyersfan51

Robert Shane Stevenson. Elite, top talent, sniping right winger.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
If I'm James reimer I'd be pretty ticked off rite now
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
That's the thing, I like Bernier, but locking into one guy is part of the Flyers issues when it comes to building a team. The locked into Bryz and ended up bidding against themselves. They could have cast the net wider and had Vokoun or somebody else for less $$ and years.

People lock into a Bernier or Ryan and their worlds collapse when it doesn't happen. That's dumb. There's other options.

- Jsaquella

you mean locking in like that could be a bad strategy?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
i think nonis wants to lock down the position because the leafs have to keep going forward. they are now expected to make the plyoffs and start doing damage...tons of pressure up there.
- isaiah520

It still doesn't seem like much a huge upgrade to me, but then I've always thought Bernier was overhyped. Not a bad player to have, just overhyped for how little he's played in the big league.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:39 AM ET
Robert Shane Stevenson. Elite, top talent, sniping right winger.
- jak521

Haha good one
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:39 AM ET
Yeah, that was a real forgettable one.

On a leaguewide basis, 2004 turned out to be a decent draft crop. For the Flyers, however, it was one strikeout after another among the 11 picks they held. David Laliberte was as good as it got for the Flyers. Among the biggest misses, there were four future 220-plus NHL game players selected within 11 picks of their third round selection, Rob Bellamy, who topped out as an AHL fourth-liner. There was also a future convicted murderer (Ladislav Scurko) among the Flyers' picks that year.

- bmeltzer



jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:40 AM ET
If I'm James reimer I'd be pretty ticked off rite now
- griouxmvp2012

If I'm James Reimer right now, I take this as a challenge and do everything I can to prove Im the clear cut #1.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:41 AM ET
If I'm James Reimer right now, I take this as a challenge and do everything I can to prove Im the clear cut #1.
- jak521

They didn't give that much up for a guy to be a backup. Just sayin
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:41 AM ET
I still don't get the Bobby Ryan idea. We just had a player )hopefully) blossom into a top-line right wing in Voracek. Bobby Ryan would force him down a line, and while I'm fine with depth at forward, it will cost the Flyers on defense. With Meszaros and Grossmann as question marks right now, I'm not ready to move Coburn and other assets to acquire him.
- jmatchett383


I'm not advocating for Bobby Ryan, I just wouldn't be surprised to see him dealt for. Although I think the preoccupation with Ryan stems mostly from the media and some vocal fans, there has been a lot of kicking tires with the Ducks for him over the past few years. Maybe Holmgren really likes him or something.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:41 AM ET
It still doesn't seem like much a huge upgrade to me, but then I've always thought Bernier was overhyped. Not a bad player to have, just overhyped for how little he's played in the big league.
- BulliesPhan87

they obviously had doubts about reimer and didn't want to hitch their wagon to him. needing goaltending during the season is a poor leverage situation, so they're getting out in front, i guess.
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