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Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Jun 24 @ 7:56 AM ET
fla: gagner + 7th pick

edm: bjudstad + 2nd pick

- deks1


Too much for Florida to give up to acquire Gagner. The value difference between Jones and Nurse (or if you prefer MacKinnon and Lindholm) is too far apart for a swap of Gagner and Bjudstad.

If you want the 2nd overall pick the deal would have to be something like:

Gagner, 7th pick

for:

2nd pick, rights to Weiss, conditional 2014 3rd.

Conditional that they sign Weiss.

It is a huge price for Edmonton to pay but to get another Franchise player to add to Hall - Nuge - Yakupov, you have to pay. Besides, Weiss is a great replacement for Gagner especially if it gets you Jones.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jun 24 @ 7:59 AM ET
I get the feeling the only way the Sabres move Myers is if they are getting a package of Klefbom + 7th.

Trading Myers straight up for a Nurse level player (or even adding an irrelevant piece) is a bad move for the Sabres IMO, yes there is a risk that Myers wont live up to his contract but this kind of move can haunt a team for a long time if done to rashly.

- Steven_Dean


I can see 7th +. But not klefbom.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 24 @ 8:12 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Whamp Whomp Whaaa
- Maxbone



The only one saying goofy things on a regular basis is you Cloutier.

newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 24 @ 8:15 AM ET
fla: gagner + 7th pick

edm: bjudstad + 2nd pick

- deks1



Isn't happening so stop the discussion about it.

No team in the top 4 is moving those picks UNLESS they are blown away. Gagner plus the 7th does not blow Florida away. Eberle plus the 7th blows Florida away. Yes I know you're going to say that's not happening & you're right just like it's not happening the other way either.

The only team that may trade out is Carolina at 5 & that's highly unlikely as well.
heh49314
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Here, AB
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 8:26 AM ET
Isn't happening so stop the discussion about it.

No team in the top 4 is moving those picks UNLESS they are blown away. Gagner plus the 7th does not blow Florida away.

The only team that may trade out is Carolina at 5 & that's highly unlikely as well.

- newmy

I love how Mr Newmy suggests that the only way we make ANY kind of trade is if we overpay. Does not matter for who, or what we are offering up, it must be Edmonton overpaying for whatever scrub we suggest in acquiring. Thank you Mr. Newmy for your most valuable insight.
coolehmon41
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 24 @ 8:36 AM ET
Gagner for Gardiner, Reimer,Rielly,Kadri 2014 1st,2015 1st.

Whattya think?
Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jun 24 @ 8:43 AM ET
Gagner for Gardiner, Reimer,Rielly,Kadri 2014 1st,2015 1st.

Whattya think?

- coolehmon41


You are stunned.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 24 @ 8:47 AM ET
LOL, Gagner for Phaneuf.

is that Gagner+edmonton's 1st?

If so, what else would edmonton add?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 24 @ 8:54 AM ET
Good. Why can't we just replace our UFA's with different , better UFA'S , let our prospects develop in the minors and our young roster players simply get healthy and play like they are a year older?
- Jeropotato

When was the last time Edmonton attracted any good UFAs?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 24 @ 8:56 AM ET
You are stunned.
- Al Hacker

Love the location, who shared that tidbit of lunacy?
Smurfs-A-Joke
Washington Capitals
Location: Markham, ON
Joined: 05.05.2013

Jun 24 @ 8:58 AM ET
The only one saying goofy things on a regular basis is you Cloutier.
- newmy

Smurfs-A-Joke
Washington Capitals
Location: Markham, ON
Joined: 05.05.2013

Jun 24 @ 8:59 AM ET
Gagner wouldn't even net a 1st in the top 15 in this draft. Too deep.
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:00 AM ET
LOL, Gagner for Phaneuf.

is that Gagner+edmonton's 1st?

If so, what else would edmonton add?

- Feeling Glucky?



some serious overvaluing going on in this blog, acquiring top talent takes top talent. sam gagner + 7th overall for Jones or Nathan MacKinnon, never going to happen.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:01 AM ET
not sure would i want weiss, but i tinker the idea of gagner + 7th pick for fla 2nd pick +
- deks1


Wait...the 2nd pick AND MORE!?!?
Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:02 AM ET
Love the location, who shared that tidbit of lunacy?
- Feeling Glucky?


Can't remember which window licker it was. Made me laugh though.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:08 AM ET
LOL, Gagner for Phaneuf.

is that Gagner+edmonton's 1st?

If so, what else would edmonton add?

- Feeling Glucky?




For the great Panuf?

Hall at a minimum


Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:08 AM ET
As for the Hemsky rumor, Oilers fans are going to need to accept the return for him isn't going to be what we had in mind at all.
- Maxbone


This is why I hate you. It was less than 24 hours ago that you proposed a stupid deal for Zibanejad while the rest of us were talking about Zach Smith. Now this morning you write this !! How the hell did you manage to convince some backwater newspaper to hire you ?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:13 AM ET
For the great Panuf?

Hall at a minimum

- robin_steele264

Whoa now, that's a bit much. Leafs may settle for a Yakupov+Schultz+Eberle combo... in addition to the previously mentioned pieces.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:13 AM ET
When was the last time Edmonton attracted any good UFAs?
- Feeling Glucky?

Justin Schultz was the last one. Swing and miss with Hossa and Jagr previously.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:14 AM ET
When was the last time Edmonton attracted any good UFAs?
- Feeling Glucky?

Justin Schultz
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:14 AM ET
Whoa now, that's a bit much. Leafs may settle for a Yakupov+Schultz+Eberle combo... in addition to the previously mentioned pieces.
- Feeling Glucky?




Ok sweet.


I can't wait for Dioon to turn the Oilers around



robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:16 AM ET
Justin Schultz was the last one. Swing and miss with Hossa and Jagr previously.
- Jeropotato




Lots of teams have problems attracting good UFA's.


Like Toronto for instance


Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
Lots of teams have problems attracting good UFA's.


Like Toronto for instance

- robin_steele264


Agreed,but he asked.No need to sugar coat it like other fan bases do.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
Lots of teams have problems attracting good UFA's.


Like Toronto for instance

- robin_steele264

fo sho.

And when a Leafs fan says "why can't we just replace all our UFAs with better ones" feel free to say the same thing.
HerpDerp
Location: funkytown, HI
Joined: 07.21.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
if the leafs wanted a small 45 pt center that's useless when hes not scoring they should probably go and resign tyler bozak
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