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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:26 AM ET
Thank jeebus for that eh.
- HouseArrest187

yup
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:28 AM ET
Can someone please answer the following for me?

1. When can we resign RFA's?
2. When can we try to acquire other RFA's?
3. When can you pick up UFA's?
4. Is the cut-off date for resigning UFA's July 5th?
5. When can you officially start making trades? (I thought you couldn't trade players yet, but then today Bernier was traded to TO)

I've heard so much crap about this i don't know what's right or wrong anymore aha.

- mbxiphos1527


I will give it my best guess.

1) you can sign contract extensions at anytime.
2) If a player is unsigned by the start of FA then you can try and land anothers.
3) see 3
4) You can sign UFA's at any point, however the last day for a compliance buyout is the 4th of July and it begins 48 hours after the cup is over.
5) You can trade at any point, however any player traded after the trade deadline is ineligible to play in the playoffs. Most teams don't trade during the playoffs as a courtesy to the teams still in it, however due to the shortened schedule some GM are making trades early due to their limited amount of time to get a lot done, i.e Gonchar, Streit and Bernier.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:28 AM ET
fla: gagner + 7th pick

edm: bjudstad + 2nd pick

- deks1


Trading 2 things for 2 better things?
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:29 AM ET
it's risky, trading gagner that is a consistent proven 40-50 pts 2c for a unproven big skilled centreman will potential to be a 2c. but i love the idea of getting the 2nd overall even if edm has to add another prospect. if that's the case, i'd also inquire about skille and theodore negotiating rights.
- deks1

That's true. I'd just be happy with the second overall pick. And knowing that COL isn't taking Jones, we could (obviously) take him and he could possibly play on the roster next year, based on his skill level ofcoarse which we all know is to be very high. It'd be an upgrade to the D for sure.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 24 @ 1:33 AM ET
Trading 2 things for 2 better things?
- Meeqsb


i guess thats your opinion of bjugstad value is higher than gagner. i already said gagner's proven record vs bjugstad's 11 total nhl games is risky on edm's part. maybe moving up 5 spots is costly and undervalued that idea, but definitely not gagner vs bjugstad at the present moment. plus i said if edm has to add, i would insist another prospect
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:35 AM ET
I will give it my best guess.

1) you can sign contract extensions at anytime.
2) If a player is unsigned by the start of FA then you can try and land anothers.
3) see 3
4) You can sign UFA's at any point, however the last day for a compliance buyout is the 4th of July and it begins 48 hours after the cup is over.
5) You can trade at any point, however any player traded after the trade deadline is ineligible to play in the playoffs. Most teams don't trade during the playoffs as a courtesy to the teams still in it, however due to the shortened schedule some GM are making trades early due to their limited amount of time to get a lot done, i.e Gonchar, Streit and Bernier.

- Meeqsb

Right on. Well certainly better than what I heard. Thanks.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:41 AM ET
i guess thats your opinion of bjugstad value is higher than gagner. i already said gagner's proven record vs bjugstad's 11 total nhl games is risky on edm's part. maybe moving up 5 spots is costly and undervalued that idea, but definitely not gagner vs bjugstad at the present moment. plus i said if edm has to add, i would insist another prospect
- deks1

Plus the guy's huge. 6'6 and 220 lbs. And don't forget he plays for Florida. They were the worst team in the league this year and it's hard for talented players to shine on bad teams. As far as size goes, I'd definatly want him on our roster. But I'm just as hesitant to make that trade as everyone else would be. And once again, we'd still be getting the 2nd overall pick. You can't really go wrong.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 1:43 AM ET
Kaberle will be set free... Offer him 3mil for a year?
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 24 @ 1:44 AM ET
Kaberle will be set free... Offer him 3mil for a year?
- BigDre

i don't know who's worst...gilbert or kaberle
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 24 @ 1:45 AM ET
Plus the guy's huge. 6'6 and 220 lbs. And don't forget he plays for Florida. They were the worst team in the league this year and it's hard for talented players to shine on bad teams. As far as size goes, I'd definatly want him on our roster. But I'm just as hesitant to make that trade as everyone else would be. And once again, we'd still be getting the 2nd overall pick. You can't really go wrong.
- mbxiphos1527


exactly, like what else should edm add? marincin? 2nd round pick? i'd do it to make it happen.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 1:49 AM ET
i don't know who's worst...gilbert or kaberle
- deks1


They would both be considered reliable NHL defensemen at a 5/6 role, depth the Oil haven't had in decades
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 24 @ 1:50 AM ET
They would both be considered reliable NHL defensemen at a 5/6 role, depth the Oil haven't had in decades
- BigDre


komisarek will be a free man too.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:55 AM ET
exactly, like what else should edm add? marincin? 2nd round pick? i'd do it to make it happen.
- deks1

Exactly. They'd probably ask for a decent prospect too. But no way in hell would I give them Marincin. I'd offer Musil or Rajala or something. Plus if we're drafting Jones, we could throw in a quality D prospect. Not Klefbom or Marincin, but maybe even Fedun and Musil?

Sounds like a good deal for both teams. We get size up the middle and young, but immediate help on the blue line. And Florida gets a young promised centreman and a guaranteed future player from the 7th overall pick, not to mention the two prospects we'd include in the trade. They need it considering their list of prospects aren't too great.
knmdlm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 10.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 1:57 AM ET
I'd pass on Kaberle. No hesitation. Not worth it.

If the Oilers trade Petry in some package deal for
a top Defenseman than I consider Gilbert.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 1:57 AM ET
fla: gagner + 7th pick

edm: bjudstad + 2nd pick

- deks1



What the... are you high?
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:01 AM ET


What the... are you high?

- Panthers88


??? Not enough... You guys could always through in another pick.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 2:01 AM ET


What the... are you high?

- Panthers88

Well you're not getting Crosby for your 2nd overall pick.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:01 AM ET


What the... are you high?

- Panthers88


are you trying to overvalue bjudstad? kid has 11 nhl games. if you think he has more value than gagner... right...

otherwise yes, i would suggest edm offering more to move from 7th to 2nd.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:01 AM ET
Exactly. They'd probably ask for a decent prospect too. But no way in hell would I give them Marincin. I'd offer Musil or Rajala or something. Plus if we're drafting Jones, we could throw in a quality D prospect. Not Klefbom or Marincin, but maybe even Fedun and Musil?

Sounds like a good deal for both teams. We get size up the middle and young, but immediate help on the blue line. And Florida gets a young promised centreman and a guaranteed future player from the 7th overall pick, not to mention the two prospects we'd include in the trade. They need it considering their list of prospects aren't too great.

- mbxiphos1527

We have the #1 rated prospect pool, moron.. you guys are crazy.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 2:03 AM ET
We have the #1 rated prospect pool, moron.. you guys are crazy.
- Panthers88

That must be why you guys did so well this season.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:03 AM ET
Well you're not getting Crosby for your 2nd overall pick.
- mbxiphos1527

I never said anything about trading the #2 pick. But if we did trade it, it would be a trade that benefited us quite a bit more, and would include Klefbom. Edmonton doesn't have the ammo to pull it off. If we trade down, it will be no lower than 5.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:03 AM ET
That must be why you guys did so well this season.
- mbxiphos1527

Just as good as you guys
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:04 AM ET
I never said anything about trading the #2 pick. But if we did trade it, it would be a trade that benefited us quite a bit more, and would include Klefbom. Edmonton doesn't have the ammo to pull it off. If we trade down, it will be no lower than 5.
- Panthers88


my turn to are you high? if it was just 7th + klefbom for 2nd, yes.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:04 AM ET
That must be why you guys did so well this season.
- mbxiphos1527
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/team-rankings/
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:05 AM ET
my turn to are you high?
- deks1

We are talking the #2 pick, then yes, he would have to be included.
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