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navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:00 AM ET
You have to watch the games instead of just looking at the numbers my man. I don't find it impressive when Quick has an 18 save shutout
- OneKaneOneCup

when was the last time the sabres won a playoff series?

OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:02 AM ET
Yes, he does. You're completely ignoring the saves he shouldn't have made in game 1. Blues should have won by 2 or 3 against an average goalie. Not to mention game 3. Or game 5. Or game 6.

Quick struggled against Blackhawks. But saying he doesn't steal games is just ignorant.

- Antilles

He's a good goalie, borderline great, but look at his SCF shots against totals from last season. He had 3 games under 20 shots and only 1 over 30. Facing 6-8 shots a period is a cakewalk
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:02 AM ET
.. I'm not saying he is perfect or elite... but to say that dubnyk is better... that just ain't right..


- JVince11

serious question

how many oiler games did you watch this season?
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:03 AM ET
when was the last time the sabres won a playoff series?
- navinrjohnson

Sabres don't impress me clown.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:04 AM ET
serious question

how many oiler games did you watch this season?

- navinrjohnson

How many series has Cam Ward won since the Canes won the cup? He stole more games than Quick did
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:05 AM ET
He's a good goalie, borderline great, but look at his SCF shots against totals from last season. He had 3 games under 20 shots and only 1 over 30. Facing 6-8 shots a period is a cakewalk
- OneKaneOneCup

6 games in the finals
132 shots
7 goals allowed


.947 save%

if miller posted those numbers, there would be a cup in buffalo
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:06 AM ET
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your move


- navinrjohnson

I believe we may have a winner, folks.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:07 AM ET
6 games in the finals
132 shots
7 goals allowed


.947 save%

if miller posted those numbers, there would be a cup in buffalo

- navinrjohnson

Tim Thomas the year before was 100x as impressive IMO
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
How many series has Cam Ward won since the Canes won the cup? He stole more games than Quick did
- OneKaneOneCup

2

was money both times in game 7
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
Consistency has been this entire teams issue under Ruff. Start off cold, end hot, awful droughts In between
- OneKaneOneCup


Ruff always thought he was driving a fully restored hot rod... he never realized that when soup, fino, drury, briefe, etc left that his hot rod turned into a car with 60k miles on it in need of a tune up..

As much as I wish we would have hired an outside the franchise coach... I am even more happy weddidn't hire a recycled coach like torts or av.. rolston can coach youth.. that is what we need.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
Tim Thomas the year before was 100x as impressive IMO
- OneKaneOneCup

those 2 goalie performances were the best two since roy
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:10 AM ET
2

was money both times in game 7

- navinrjohnson

So he and Miller have won the same amount of playoff series since 06?
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:10 AM ET


As much as I wish we would have hired an outside the franchise coach... I am even more happy weddidn't hire a recycled coach like torts or av.. rolston can coach youth.. that is what we need.

- JVince11

said thing is 2 or 3 years down the road when the sabres are good again, rolston will be the scape goat when they lose a playoff series in 7
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:11 AM ET
So he and Miller have won the same amount of playoff series since 06?
- OneKaneOneCup

yep

and he beat miller head to head and won a cup

what does ward have to do with this again, unless your trying to prove how average miller is
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
6 games in the finals
132 shots
7 goals allowed


.947 save%

if miller posted those numbers, there would be a cup in buffalo

- navinrjohnson


If miller had kopitar, brown, carter, richards, johnson, scuderi, stoll, williams, doughtry, and voynov on his team.....

There would be a cup in buffalo.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
serious question

how many oiler games did you watch this season?

- navinrjohnson


Just a handful...

But also a serious question...

How often did u watch a sabres game not looking for something to criticize Miller or myers about?

Watch the game.. not for a scapegoat.. it has made life so much easier for me.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
yep

and he beat miller head to head and won a cup

what does ward have to do with this again, unless your trying to prove how average miller is

- navinrjohnson

He beat Miller because we had 2 of 6 healthy defensemen. I say that because Carolina like Buffalo has had average rosters since and have been both mediocre. Did you see Carolina collapse when Ward when out?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
I thought it was good, the back and forth stuff got to me a bit

I do not want to give it away for others

it was nice to see a hot Lois Lane, for once

they are making a sequel and then a justice league movie

superman IMO is the hardest of super heroes to translate to the big screen

WWZ was epic on the other hand

- navinrjohnson


I'm gonna see it next week,
Pretty psyched for it
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:19 AM ET
If miller had kopitar, brown, carter, richards, johnson, scuderi, stoll, williams, doughtry, and voynov on his team.....

There would be a cup in buffalo.

- JVince11

based on what?

Miller has never been that consistent in the playoffs

and he had briere, drury, roy, vanek, pommer, connolly, campbell, jp, max,
enough talent to win a cup

I would put that team up against the kings 18 skaters

the difference was goaltending
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
Just a handful...

But also a serious question...

How often did u watch a sabres game not looking for something to criticize Miller or myers about?

Watch the game.. not for a scapegoat.. it has made life so much easier for me.

- JVince11

I watch the game for what it is

if miller was more consistent, and myers as well then this team would not have missed the playoffs the last 2 seasons

their lack of consistency was a big part of the team's failures
leafs2
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
Frattin is not a top 6 forward. The second rd pick will not be in nhl for atleast 2 years. Lol the 500k is like 5 dollars to the leaf. Garth you are a fool.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:21 AM ET
based on what?

Miller has never been that consistent in the playoffs

and he had briere, drury, roy, vanek, pommer, connolly, campbell, jp, max,
enough talent to win a cup

I would put that team up against the kings 18 skaters

the difference was goaltending

- navinrjohnson

And that difference has won the same amount of playoff series in 7 years as Miller.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:23 AM ET
He beat Miller because we had 2 of 6 healthy defensemen. I say that because Carolina like Buffalo has had average rosters since and have been both mediocre. Did you see Carolina collapse when Ward when out?
- OneKaneOneCup

he beat Miller due to the .887 save % miller put up in the series

miller played great in game 1 and 6 and played like lalime in most of the other games
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:23 AM ET
I'm gonna see it next week,
Pretty psyched for it

- jdfitz77

best movie I have seen since django
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:25 AM ET
he beat Miller due to the .887 save % miller put up in the series

miller played great in game 1 and 6 and played like lalime in most of the other games

- navinrjohnson

Do you think that .887 had anything to do with Rory Fitzpatrick and Doug Janik getting extended playing time? Or is it all on Miller?
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