Gagner was on pace for 65P this season...that means nothing to you.

Gardiner gets called up from the AHL for 20 games and he's EASILY a top 4 D man.

Alright. Loud and clear
- TheNugeIsHuge

And klefbom a man who has never stepped foot on NHL ice is your Savior and untouchable

Can you stop pulling Gardiner into your blogs he is more untouchable then any of the oilers, and has proven more then any of young oilers defence
- shill-17

judging by this horrendous grammar, and the dumb point that goes with it, I'm going to assume this guy's 11

By playing 7 games?
- Oilers4Life14

Oh I guess no prospects/young players can shown potential to be good players because they haven't played in the NHL

And klefbom a man who has never stepped foot on NHL ice is your Savior and untouchable
- shill-17

I love how you say "your" like I've ever posted anything about Klefbom.

You've already established that you know nothing. Please leave.

Can you stop pulling Gardiner into your blogs he is more untouchable then any of the oilers, and has proven more then any of young oilers defence
- shill-17

What do you mean by young? Smid and Petry are 27 and 25 respectively and have proven a lot more than 22 year old jake. Justin is the same age and has proven arguably as much. I can't speak for who's untouchable on the leafs, and neither can you.

Gardiner's potential is through the roof and despite how you Oiler fans feel about Gagner, it'll take more than that to get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not A Chance!!

Well, note that I used the word potential and you used the word ability. You naughty boy, putting words in my mouth.

I think Gardiner could very easily become a top 4 defender and I think Gagner could very easily score over 50 points. I don't see what's too controversial about that.

Again, if there's any chance that Gagner could become a consistent 50+ point player, having shown gamebreaking ability at a relatively young age, why would we trade him for peanuts because everyone considers him to be a guy who will NEVER hit 50 points?
- Morris

Yeah gagner probably will hit 50 points it's just that you can't say he is a 50 point player, anyway its probably a fair deal, but I would rather have a potential top 4 d man who can move the puck, then a small top 6 center

Well, this just isn't true lol.
- Nastradamus

that was a great post you responded to. I just hope he didn't actually believe the words that he wrote, but was more just sick and tired of oiler fans and wanted to shut us up!!

Gardiner's potential is through the roof and despite how you Oiler fans feel about Gagner, it'll take more than that to get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not A Chance!!
- hickey17

Leafs fans. The cream of the IQ crop.

Can you stop pulling Gardiner into your blogs he is more untouchable then any of the oilers, and has proven more then any of young oilers defence
- shill-17

this!!

Yeah gagner probably will hit 50 points it's just that you can't say he is a 50 point player, anyway its probably a fair deal straight up
- 6Karlsson5

I never said he is a 50 point player, and never will until the time he reaches it (if he does).

My belief is that the Oilers organization thinks he can be a 50+ point player, and I also believe that's not unreasonable given what he's shown.

My contention was that if the rest of the GMs consider him a guy who's peaked and will never reach 50 points, how could they in good conscience trade him for whatever kind of player that would fetch?

Sam Gagner (Age 23)

2007-2008 OILERS 79 13 36 49
2008-2009 OILERS 76 16 25 41
2009-2010 OILERS 68 15 26 41
2010-2011 OILERS 68 15 27 42
2011-2012 OILERS 75 18 29 47
2012-2013 OILERS 48 14 24 38

Yup Gagner is to old and He won't get better so lest trade Him for a Defeseman that have done this much and got SUPER POTENTIAL.

Jake Gardiner (Age 23)

2010-11 Toronto Marlies AHL 10 0 3 3 4
2011-12 Toronto M Leafs NHL 75 7 23 30
2011-12 Toronto Marlies AHL 4 0 2 2 2
2012-13 Toronto Marlies AHL 43 10 21 31 12
2012-13 Toronto M Leafs NHL 12 0 4 4

that was a great post you responded to. I just hope he didn't actually believe the words that he wrote, but was more just sick and tired of oiler fans and wanted to shut us up!!
- hugefemale dog77

I certainly hope so

And klefbom a man who has never stepped foot on NHL ice is your Savior and untouchable
- shill-17

To Clouts

Leafs fans. The cream of the IQ crop.
- TheNugeIsHuge

I try not to be sucked in to posting, but hello pot, meet kettle.......both teams have some seriously bad posters.

Gagner was on pace for 65P this season...that means nothing to you.

Gardiner gets called up from the AHL for 20 games and he's EASILY a top 4 D man.

Alright. Loud and clear
- TheNugeIsHuge

Yet Klefbom is like Jesus to you oilers fans and he has never even stepped foot in the NHL but yeah keep acting like the leafs would be privileged for you to take Gardnier off there hands, there is a reason why Richard bring him up alot in his blogs... Because Gardnier is good

I try not to be sucked in to posting, but hello pot, meet kettle.......both teams have some seriously bad posters.
- wicket

lol

Top 4 D men come from scraps.

I'm glad you're not attempting to back me up. You have no credibility to me. You just run your mouth about how much you hate hemsky and how bad cloutier is.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Gagner is better than Nuge...
- Oilers4Life14

When Gagner puts up consistent seasons, then we can all properly evaluate him.

He had 1 good season since he's been in the league so we all need to stop talking as if the guy is amongst the top players in the league.

Can he put up the same numbers next season, possibly but i'm not totally convinced. And so many players, once they get a brand new contract worth millions, they disappear so that's another reason i'm not completely sold on Gagner.

Agree or disagree but 1 yr doesn't make you a stud!!!

Sam Gagner (Age 23)

2007-2008 OILERS 79 13 36 49
2008-2009 OILERS 76 16 25 41
2009-2010 OILERS 68 15 26 41
2010-2011 OILERS 68 15 27 42
2011-2012 OILERS 75 18 29 47
2012-2013 OILERS 48 14 24 38

Yup Gagner is to old and He won't get better so lest trade Him for a Defeseman that have done this much and got SUPER POTENTIAL.

Jake Gardiner (Age 23)

2010-11 Toronto Marlies AHL 10 0 3 3 4
2011-12 Toronto M Leafs NHL 75 7 23 30
2011-12 Toronto Marlies AHL 4 0 2 2 2
2012-13 Toronto Marlies AHL 43 10 21 31 12
2012-13 Toronto M Leafs NHL 12 0 4 4
- AlEx_OiL

I actually like both players for different reasons, but come on, your posting statistics against a forward vs defence?

judging by this horrendous grammar, and the dumb point that goes with it, I'm going to assume this guy's 11
- TheNugeIsHuge

He is probably older than me, but I have better grammar?

Yet Klefbom is like Jesus to you oilers fans and he has never even stepped foot in the NHL but yeah keep acting like the leafs would be privileged for you to take Gardnier off there hands, there is a reason why Richard bring him up aloof in his blogs... Because Gardnier is good
- 6Karlsson5

CLOUTIER.

Klefbom is our top d prospect but Cloutier is the only one who treats him like that. Cloutier doesn't speak for anyone but himself.

Moving Karlsson up to the wing may be a good idea, because he sucks crap defensively
- Oilers4Life14

Getting some more 1st overall picks may be a good idea, because then you guys might make the playoffs lol

Yet Klefbom is like Jesus to you oilers fans and he has never even stepped foot in the NHL but yeah keep acting like the leafs would be privileged for you to take Gardnier off there hands, there is a reason why Richard bring him up alot in his blogs... Because Gardnier is good
- 6Karlsson5

no. klefbom is jesus to cloutier. the random dude who happens to blog for the team we cheer for.
we have no control over his comments. please attempt to grasp this concept.

Yet Klefbom is like Jesus to you oilers fans and he has never even stepped foot in the NHL but yeah keep acting like the leafs would be privileged for you to take Gardnier off there hands, there is a reason why Richard bring him up alot in his blogs... Because Gardnier is good
- 6Karlsson5

Gagner Value is higher then Gardiner.