How can u say a player like Simmonds wouldn't fit it nicely to what the Oilers need? It's EXACTLY what they need!!

What has the talk been all year - adding size, muscle combined with top 6 skill & that's exactly what you get in a player like Simmonds.

You can't tell me you would not move the 7th for Simmonds straight across - a player who fights, scores between 20 & 25 goals per season & creates space for his linemates - that is more than enough for the 7th pick - GEEZ!!!
- newmy

I'd want a bit more for the 7th... something like

Simmonds and 2nd
7th overall and 4th

I don't think this neccasarily means trading the kids. but more signing a big name FA, or trading our 7th etc. these also qualify as BOLD moves
- hugefemale dog77

That's correct sir,which I was saying that if the Flyers offer Simmonds for the 7th pick I would say take it and don't look back.

How can u say a player like Simmonds wouldn't fit it nicely to what the Oilers need? It's EXACTLY what they need!!

What has the talk been all year - adding size, muscle combined with top 6 skill & that's exactly what you get in a player like Simmonds.

You can't tell me you would not move the 7th for Simmonds straight across - a player who fights, scores between 20 & 25 goals per season & creates space for his linemates - that is more than enough for the 7th pick - GEEZ!!!
- newmy

That actually hasn't been the talk of most oilers fans outside of Cloutier. Guys that can play in the top 6 are needed, but we mostly need size, muscle and defensive awareness. I don't care if the guy scores 25 points let alone 25 goals, if he creates that space and is sound in his own end.

We really don't need any more offensive talent.

Especially since we have some big sexy bodies developing in the system.We just need to fill the gap for a few years.Not trading a major pick for a stop gap solution.
- Jeropotato

Simmonds is far from a stop-gap solution - he's a power forward for the next 5 to 8yrs. I can't believe we're even disagreeing on someone of his stature!!

That actually hasn't been the talk of most oilers fans outside of Cloutier. Guys that can play in the top 6 are needed, but we mostly need size, muscle and defensive awareness. I don't care if the guy scores 25 points let alone 25 goals, if he creates that space and is sound in his own end.

We really don't need any more offensive talent.
- Morris

And Penner & Stafford won't help the Oilers one bit!!!

Hey if we could get Malkin and Letang for Gagner, Petry, the 7th overall and the two 2nds should we do it?

That's kind of what this conversation feels like right now...

Most teams need a Simmond,Lucic type of player,and is something the Oil need,now if you believe we can get a player any where near the same type of caliber of those players for cheap to play top 6 then i do hope your right but I don't see it with the exception maybe been Drew Stafford and he is a risk.
- AlEx_OiL

We dont need that now. Were not chasing stanley. We just need to be better than 7 or 8 Western Conference teams.Most of them dont have a PF of that caliber either (LA,Ana,St.Lou-thats really it).
You guys wanna blow your loads on an expensive Power forward, dont come crying about our defence in a couple years when were capped out.

So then say good-bye to someone else - why would Simmonds have to price himself out, keep him & say good-bye to someone else.
- newmy

cause he wont be more valuable than hall or Schultz or yaks etc.
that's an easy choice.

whereas we might be able to find someone relative to him at 1/2 or even 1/3 of the price.

bickell?

these discussion kinda get skewed. yes I would trade the 7th for Simmonds.

but fiscal responsibility is very important too. we've got a chance to be perennial contenders if things go right. I don't want to blow that. just sayin

That actually hasn't been the talk of most oilers fans outside of Cloutier. Guys that can play in the top 6 are needed, but we mostly need size, muscle and defensive awareness. I don't care if the guy scores 25 points let alone 25 goals, if he creates that space and is sound in his own end.

We really don't need any more offensive talent.
- Morris

If that's what you believe then just play MPS in the top 6 and get the grit just for the botton 6.

And Penner & Stafford won't help the Oilers one bit!!!
- newmy

Penner definitely not. Stafford I'd take if we can send back salary. I don't particularly want him though.

Neither is a particularly good defensive player, and both have effort issues. I'm not super jazzed on either. But then again, it's not either Simmonds or them. There are a lot of fish in the sea.

If that's what you believe then just play MPS in the top 6 and get the grit just for the botton 6.
- AlEx_OiL

MPS isn't that good defensively, isn't huge and doesn't use his body that well to create space. Maybe someday, but he's not the kind of player I'm talking about.

MPS isn't that good defensively, isn't huge and doesn't use his body that well to create space. Maybe someday, but he's not the kind of player I'm talking about.
- Morris

im just gonna stop posting altogether.

nice one

We dont need that now. Were not chasing stanley. We just need to be better than 7 or 8 Western Conference teams.Most of them dont have a PF of that caliber either (LA,Ana,St.Lou-thats really it).
You guys wanna blow your loads on an expensive Power forward, dont come crying about our defence in a couple years when were capped out.
- Jeropotato

If you keep adding 1st round picks, you're going to be capped out anyways!!

I hear everyone talking about the Blues' situation - well I hate to break it to you, the same is going to eventually happen in Edmonton. The salary-cap era prevents teams from hanging onto all their stars & at some point, tough decisions need to be made.

Penner definitely not. Stafford I'd take if we can send back salary. I don't particularly want him though.

Neither is a particularly good defensive player, and both have effort issues. I'm not super jazzed on either. But then again, it's not either Simmonds or them. There are a lot of fish in the sea.
- Morris

THIS.

im just gonna stop posting altogether
- hugefemale dog77

MPS isn't that good defensively, isn't huge and doesn't use his body that well to create space. Maybe someday, but he's not the kind of player I'm talking about.
- Morris

I believe he's the rest I do agree with.

If you keep adding 1st round picks, you're going to be capped out anyways!!

I hear everyone talking about the Blues' situation - well I hate to break it to you, the same is going to eventually happen in Edmonton. The salary-cap era prevents teams from hanging onto all their stars & at some point, tough decisions need to be made.
- newmy

But you're suggesting a move that will force that decision to be made far sooner and more rashly than it needs to be.

There are positives to getting Simmonds no doubt, but it almost certainly spells the end of one of Eberle/Nuge/Yakupov, and probably one of Gagner/MPS too.

I believe he's the rest I do agree with.
- AlEx_OiL

Yeah I should have worded it as he isn't GREAT defensively. He is good defensively, especially for his age.

I'm finished with this blog as well but one final thing...

You give me the choice between players like Lucic, Callahan or Simmonds compared to Eberle , Gagner or even a guy like Petry - i'm taking the first 3 any day!!

Thanks for the chat boys - have a great week!!!

If you keep adding 1st round picks, you're going to be capped out anyways!!

I hear everyone talking about the Blues' situation - well I hate to break it to you, the same is going to eventually happen in Edmonton. The salary-cap era prevents teams from hanging onto all their stars & at some point, tough decisions need to be made.
- newmy

At some point, you are correct. But the Oilers are very,very thin not only with NHL quality assets, but prospects as well. I have no delusions of the Oilers winning the cup in 5 years with all of Hall, Nuge, Ebs,Yak, Schultz,Petry, Smid,MPS,Klefbom and Dubey on the roster. Not going to happen.

What is going to happen is the steady flow of 18 year old kids making the team is going to stop,or slow down at least. In a few years, the Oil will have opportunities to replace some of the above mentioned player with properly developed players from our prospect pool (ELC's), and by that time the current kids will be worth twice as much and we can start making 1 for 2 or 1 for 3 trades to fill roster needs.

For now we are simply looking to upgrade over Hemsky,Horcoff,Whitney,Jones,Petrell,Belanger and Eager.

I'm finished with this blog as well but one final thing...

You give me the choice between players like Lucic, Callahan or Simmonds compared to Eberle , Gagner or even a guy like Petry - i'm taking the first 3 any day!!

Thanks for the chat boys - have a great week!!!
- newmy

The pleasure was all yours.

I'm finished with this blog as well but one final thing...

You give me the choice between players like Lucic, Callahan or Simmonds compared to Eberle , Gagner or even a guy like Petry - i'm taking the first 3 any day!!

Thanks for the chat boys - have a great week!!!
- newmy

I agree

I'm finished with this blog as well but one final thing...

You give me the choice between players like Lucic, Callahan or Simmonds compared to Eberle , Gagner or even a guy like Petry - i'm taking the first 3 any day!!

Thanks for the chat boys - have a great week!!!
- newmy

Have a good one.

The one saving grace there for Simmonds is his relatively cheap contract.

I think I'd rather pay less, get a lesser player than Simmonds. Keep our 7th overall, have the money to improve our defense, have the money to keep Eberle, Gagner and Petry if we want to, and then acquire Simmonds down the road if we need an over the top piece.

Have a good one.

The one saving grace there for Simmonds is his relatively cheap contract.

I think I'd rather pay less, get a lesser player than Simmonds. Keep our 7th overall, have the money to improve our defense, have the money to keep Eberle, Gagner and Petry if we want to, and then acquire Simmonds down the road if we need an over the top piece.
- Morris

check with king in lak.

I agree
- AlEx_OiL

At the very least, I'd like to improve our team in free agency by spending 5 million dollars rather than giving up trade pieces. And we might disagree, but I'd rather spend 5-6 million on 2 huge less offensive, tough players and I think that would help us out just as much if not more.

For the cost to acquire Lucic, the better question is would the oilers be better off with Pietrangelo or Lucic, and the answer is so evident it's silly.