That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me since September 26th 2009....


In other news, September 27th will be my fourth wedding anniversary!
- lumlums

My congratulations and condolences, are offered at the same time for your marriage.

My point to him was why would we give up a young 2C and a top draft choice for a guy that is UFA in a year? People just don't seem to understand asset management these days...
- Iggysbff

LOL your the one who doesn't understand gagner you said is a ufa now so why would we spend that on a ufa most u can hope for is a 2nd round pick

You gotta admit, Cloutier has lost his mind with this one. His thoughts here are even more ridiculous than usual.
- Aetherial

Where do you get those avatars

My point to him was why would we give up a young 2C and a top draft choice for a guy that is UFA in a year? People just don't seem to understand asset management these days...
- Iggysbff

Ya thats a good point. To be honest, if he was signed to a reasonable extension and you had another option at 2C, I really dont think that isnt fair for you guys, just it doesnt fit like you said.
Also, we wouldnt have a top 2 defensive and only two top 4 with another 2 fringe top 4s

Then it shouldn't be too hard to sign him for under 4 Million, might as well keep him.
- Jeropotato

sure keep him- great physical presence to protect the other liliputians

Saying "on pace for 50" is one thing but if you trade for a guy who's "on pace for 50" and assume that equates to getting a 50 goal scorer you're nuts. Kadri was on pace for 30 goals and 75 points but you'd have a hard time finding a lot of people who believe he'd actually achieve that in 82 games.
- Jeffmt

What was Vanek on pace for after 20 games??

LOL your the one who doesn't understand gagner you said is a ufa now so why would we spend that on a ufa most u can hope for is a 2nd round pick
- jake24242

This is exactly what I mean when I say "Retard Rage"....

Come on man. He's talking about last year in the NHL where he had a real solid rookie season, both offensively (without top pp minutes) and defensively considering hes a first year pro.
- pbrsimps

he legitimately said "stellar AHL season" so I really think not

That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me since September 26th 2009....


In other news, September 27th will be my fourth wedding anniversary!
- lumlums

your just doing it for the party but congrats anyways

The Gardner trade proposal is laughable. Gardner is not being traded, and neither is Phaneuf.


If the Leafs want Gagner then its something like Franson, Grabovski, Riemer
for Gagner and Edmontons first.
- Jimmy_Tea

Grabovski literally has negative value. I'd take Horcoff before I take Grabovski

sure keep him- great physical presence to protect the other liliputians
- Seahawk

Every player has to be amazing at everything, right?

Oilers fans feel the same way about RNH that Leaf fans feel about Gardiner. No way I'd trade Gagner for Gardiner, he doesn't solve our 1st line center need and if you watched the playoffs, Gardiner was one of our best defensemen (if not the best). A 2nd line/3rd line center in Gagner for a up an coming stud defenseman isn't going to make me hard.

The only way the Oilers get better is to give up something good. Dubynk isn't going to get you into the playoffs. The Leafs have depth at defense, so I don't mind giving up a stud for a stud.

If I were a Oiler fan, I wouldn't want to give up RNH either, but tell your GM to stop drafting forwards.
- brisc101

yea. EDM should have drafted Murray and Larsson

Hilarious.
Oilers fans dont want to trade Gagner for Gardiner.
Leaf fans dont want to trade Gardiner for Gagner.

So what is the problem here?
- Jeropotato

Cloutier needs to stop suggesting it

LOL your the one who doesn't understand gagner you said is a ufa now so why would we spend that on a ufa most u can hope for is a 2nd round pick
- jake24242

Link?

Show me bub....Never said any of that. And you say I need to read?

sure keep him- great physical presence to protect the other liliputians
- Seahawk

(Insert long, loud,wet,flappy fart sound here).

My congratulations and condolences, are offered at the same time for your marriage.
- ruttager17

Luckily my wife is awesome, plus an engineer, so life is pretty good

She did turn 30 yesterday though, so I have almost 5 months to mock her before I fall afoul of the same fate

Link?

Show me bub....Never said any of that. And you say I need to read?


- Iggysbff

Man, you never give this much attention to Tards...you must be feeling generous today.

LOL - true!!
From a Leafs perspective though - it makes no sense when they can resign Bozak and just keep Gardiner. Bozak isn't Gagner but he's not far off either.

Put it this way - the difference between Bozak and Gagner is not Gardiner!
- Cooshie

TO really should not resign Bozak. He's a fringe 2C, and'll be commanding so much. I saw a chart that showed Kessel plays much better without bozak.

TO should trade his rights and go after weiss or ribeiro

Very much a long shot. Carolina will not take a dman, Rutherford is not big on taking them in the 1st round.

Rutherford also said a few days ago he'll trade the pick if the guy they want is gone at 5.

COL-Mackinnon
FLA-Barkov
TB-Jones
NASH-Drouin

I think Carolina wants Barkov, and this could easily happen.
- mochoson

Stop drinking my Koolaid

Grabovski literally has negative value. I'd take Horcoff before I take Grabovski
- TheNugeIsHuge

you're drunk.

grabovski had a subpar 48 games in the last 5 years, and he still had more use than horcoff.

have another one.

Cloutier needs to stop suggesting it
- TheNugeIsHuge

Cloutier needs to stop doing alot of things. "Blogging" would be a nice start.

It's not an understatement. I'm not trying to offend, but Gagner is definitely a better offensive player. Anyone cane compare two players on paper with stats. Watching the two of them, I'll take Gagner on the ice when I'm down a gaol over Bozak any day of the week.

This Gagner 40-50 point stuff has gotta stop. This kids gotten better every year he's been in the league. If he's healthy, I easily see him eclipsing 70 points this year.

If Bozak ever hits 60 ill be pleasantly surprised. He just doesn't have that offensive acumen Gagner has IMO
- mochoson

thank you

you're drunk.

grabovski had a subpar 48 games in the last 5 years, and he still had more use than horcoff.

have another one.
- joel878

Pretty ugly contract though. I doubt the Leafs could trade it if they wanted to. I think that was the point.

Grabovski literally has negative value. I'd take Horcoff before I take Grabovski
- TheNugeIsHuge

First time I will actually agree with you on here.
Grabovski does have negative value. Leafs are getting NOTHING of any value in exchange for Grabovski.

Grabovski literally has negative value. I'd take Horcoff before I take Grabovski
- TheNugeIsHuge

That's just silly