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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 23 @ 7:43 PM ET
LOL - true!!
From a Leafs perspective though - it makes no sense when they can resign Bozak and just keep Gardiner. Bozak isn't Gagner but he's not far off either.

Put it this way - the difference between Bozak and Gagner is not Gardiner!

- Cooshie


From an Oilers perspective,it makes no sense ,when the Oilers have only Lander signed to start the season at Center, to trade Gagner for a player that ,as good as he is, doesn't fit our immediate needs.

Basically, most every Oiler fan and Leaf fan is saying no deal,so lets move on.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:43 PM ET
Wouldn't trade Gardiner for Gagner straight up. I don't think Nonis would either.
- Jeffmt


I find that hard to believe.

I also don't hold Gardiner in anywhere near as high regard as most Leafs fans.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 23 @ 7:44 PM ET
Gagner is better than Nuge...
- Oilers4Life14


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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 23 @ 7:44 PM ET
this blog is gonna set leafs nation a flame
- TheNugeIsHuge


would be the point... no?
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:44 PM ET
why try and rile leaf fans up?

of course it's not.

- hugefemale dog77


Why cant all Oiler fans be like you and Morris? And that Jerepotatoe guy is alright too. Plus the funny ones like Raveen.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 23 @ 7:44 PM ET
Leafs - Oilers threads make for great discussion
- robin_steele264


If by good you mean "retard rage filled", then yes. Very good,
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
Fair enough. Still value Gardiner more though because of that great potential. (Not to say gagner wont get better as well)
- pbrsimps

See who said Oilers and Leafs fun's can't have a civil conversation
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
Could you make one that says " Crazy delusional Leaf fans =/= every Leaf fan"?
- pbrsimps

sure, here you go.

Crazy delusional Leaf fans =/= every Leaf fan
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
Gardiner and a 2nd for Eberle.
- Smurfs-A-Joke


Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jun 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
I find that hard to believe.

I also don't hold Gardiner in anywhere near as high regard as most Leafs fans.

- mochoson


I don't hold Ganger in anywhere near as high regard as most Edmonton fans. Is he really that big of an upgrade over Bozak? If we're going to have to pay a 2nd line center to play on our first line I'd rather just pay the guy we've already got.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
I find that hard to believe.

I also don't hold Gardiner in anywhere near as high regard as most Leafs fans.

- mochoson


Leafs don't really have a use for yet another sub 6', 50 pt center. Got plenty of those thanks.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 7:47 PM ET
Why cant all Oiler fans be like you and Morris? And that Jerepotatoe guy is alright too. Plus the funny ones like Raveen.
- pbrsimps

cause we're kickazz
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:47 PM ET
MacT feels the same is Gardiner plus....
- AlEx_OiL


This sounds a lot like:

Chiarelli: Hey guys! We're getting Kaberle PLUS the first for Kessel, what a steal!

Burke: Guess what? Kessel AND the first for Kaberle, what a schmuck!!!


mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:47 PM ET
Leafs don't really have a use for yet another sub 6', 50 pt center. Got plenty of those thanks.
- Big_Lightnin


Garner was on pace for almost 70 points, but alrite
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:48 PM ET
Leafs - Oilers threads make for great discussion
- robin_steele264



Not sure if I would use the word great, but entertaining, yes.
I do enjoy it though as I like both teams.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 23 @ 7:48 PM ET
I only said Gagner Value higher right now because of the amount of years he have already play and show he can produce,Gardiner had only One season with yes great potential but He only have one season under his belt so if He keeps producing the same or better in the next 2 to 3 years then I will said his value is higher but right now Gagner have that advantage IMO.
- AlEx_OiL


A lot of times "Potential" is worth more then proven productivity and teams pay for that possibility of a huge payoff. That is why draft picks come so costly....or blue chip prospects that haven't played an NHL hockey game. Gardiner was very good his rookie year and recovered in AHL this year from post concussion issues. Stepped into playoffs and showed how his game has improved even more so then his rookie year.
Leaf fans are very excited to see what he is going to do next year in his real 2nd NHL season.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:49 PM ET
I don't hold Ganger in anywhere near as high regard as most Edmonton fans. Is he really that big of an upgrade over Bozak? If we're going to have to pay a 2nd line center to play on our first line I'd rather just pay the guy we've already got.
- Jeffmt


Offensively he's a huge upgrade over Bozak, but value wise they are pretty close given how Bozak is better at other facets of the game
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 23 @ 7:51 PM ET
Garner was on pace for almost 70 points, but alrite
- mochoson


and I'm not knocking Gagner... but he doesn't solve the problem Leafs have, he compounds it.

and Kadri was on pace for 75pts, playing less minutes
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:51 PM ET
A lot of times "Potential" is worth more then proven productivity and teams pay for that possibility of a huge payoff. That is why draft picks come so costly....or blue chip prospects that haven't played an NHL hockey game. Gardiner was very good his rookie year and recovered in AHL this year from post concussion issues. Stepped into playoffs and showed how his game has improved even more so then his rookie year.
Leaf fans are very excited to see what he is going to do next year in his real 2nd NHL season.

- Cooshie

So lest wait for next season and the next one to see if Gardiner can keep improving and be the player that Leaf funs are hoping for.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:53 PM ET
and I'm not knocking Gagner... but he doesn't solve the problem Leafs have, he compounds it.
- Big_Lightnin


I personally would rather sign Weiss or kick tires on Statsny, I don't necessarily disagree with you.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:53 PM ET
I find that hard to believe.

I also don't hold Gardiner in anywhere near as high regard as most Leafs fans.

- mochoson

Thats not suprising. You hate the leafs don't you?
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:54 PM ET
See who said Oilers and Leafs fun's can't have a civil conversation
- AlEx_OiL




Gardiner is better than all your so called "untouchables" put together? # 1st overalls and theyre all busts! J Schultz is basically like a winger, but really bad. You suck. Oiler suck. How many 1st overalls you need to be a decent hockey team? Keep rebuilding towards being terrible suckers!!!!




Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 23 @ 7:54 PM ET
So lest wait for next season and the next one to see if Gardiner can keep improving and be the player that Leaf funs are hoping for.
- AlEx_OiL


Hopefully RNH turns into the player you hope him to be too!
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:55 PM ET
Thats not suprising. You hate the leafs don't you?
- walshyleafsfan


Not at all. I wouldnt consider myself a diehard but they are a very entertaining team to watch.

Want a trade to consider Leaf fans? Gardiner for Bjugstad
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:56 PM ET
Thats not suprising. You hate the leafs don't you?
- walshyleafsfan




Cause that's the only possible reason for anyone not to be gaga over Gardiner.


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