If you could get a Joe Thornton type center by adding Reimer into the deal, would you do it?
- Flyfreaky

Yes.

1st up, Media's been calling him a future #1 for literally 3 years.

2nd, nobody in here has said he's the #1.

Keep your head up your ass though, I know it's been there so long you nobody would recognize you if you took it out.
- Big_Lightnin

Remember watching him play when he was like 18 or whatever, years ago, and how highly he was touted even then.

price is the issue.

He's better than Bozak, but I don't want to pay either of them $5M as long as Grabo is here.

No point in having Kadri, Grabo, and Weiss (or Bozak).

Kadri and 1 of the other 3, but only 1. And I'm fine with keeping Grabo if these are the options.
- Big_Lightnin

Same. Grabovski's been consistent since we brought him on board and has taken on tough shutdown assignments while still putting up points; he'll bounce back next year.

Not many people are saying he is an upgraded on Reimer. But he's an upgrade on Scrivens and could very well turn into an upgrade on Reimer.
I personally think Reimer is starting at #1 and its up to Bernier to taketit from him.
There is nothing wrong with having a 1A and 1B tandem though.
- UsernameUnknown

But why address and area that doesn't need addressing? They could've easily stuck with Reimer and got a veteran backup for him via trade or free agency.

I think when both goalies are young, there is a problem with having 1A and 1B tandem. We saw this fail on teams before. Washington is a great example.

If you could get a Joe Thornton type center by adding Reimer into the deal, would you do it?
- Flyfreaky

Well a Joe Thornton type centre that was 10 years younger would be sweet - those are hard to come by though

I do think he's a slight upgrade on Reimer, an absolute upgrade on Scrivens.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, I like the trade a lot, he's one of the best goalie prospects in the league.
- Nastradamus

So far Reimer has the better numbers.

you have no clue what youre talking about eh
- TylerSeguin19

"wassup Pot"

"Hey Kettle! how you doing?"

Yes.
- aries1976

As much as i love joe thorton, and i hate to say this, but hed be no more than a stop gap for 3 years or so..

Flip Bernier to Jersey in a package.

But he wants a number one job and the club has been saying that for a long time that they needed a vet. Bernier has been very public about the context of the trade he wants, which means he's coming to run Reimer out of here or relegate him. This is called treating your players like garbage, and creating unnecessary controversy.
- aminnes

The one thing you've got to love about Reimer (aside from his .920+ upside) is that he has the right attitude to play here.

He's proven he can play under the spotlight. Bernier is in for a bit of a wake-up call. A dozen starts per year in California is a lot different than starting in TO.

I shudder to think what would happen if the Leafs traded an asset with real value...

4k comments in 2 hours?

1st up, Media's been calling him a future #1 for literally 3 years.

2nd, nobody in here has said he's the #1.

Keep your head up your ass though, I know it's been there so long you nobody would recognize you if you took it out.
- Big_Lightnin

He's a first round pick, of course theyre gunna say he's a future star. And yes people have said he's a legit number one goalie. Be stubborn though...

Why trade reimer or bernier when their values can both sky rocket and we can trade one of them eventually later for more value? So what if one fails miserably, it was our fault to begin with taking the gamble on bernier. Lets say bernier works and reimer fails, does it matter? Reimer was with us the whole time, we didnt trade for reimer. If bernier fails, it was our fault for trading for him in the first place. If both succeed, we have a goalie with value higher than before.

Stupid acquisition. Bernier is a great goalie, but this is ZERO upgrade from Reimer. Funny how Bernier is all of a sudden a legitimate starting goalie as soon as he comes to the Leafs. He's never played more than 25 games in the league. Leafs screw with another goalie in Reimer. He was the only reason they made any noise this year...
- TylerSeguin19

Not an untrue post.

I shudder to think what would happen if the Leafs traded an asset with real value...

4k comments in 2 hours?
- AdamFrench

But why address and area that doesn't need addressing? They could've easily stuck with Reimer and got a veteran backup for him via trade or free agency.

I think when both goalies are young, there is a problem with having 1A and 1B tandem. We saw this fail on teams before. Washington is a great example.
- TylerSeguin19

It does need addressing.... don't act like some authority on hockey and especially the Leafs you're just a punk b!tch

But why address and area that doesn't need addressing? They could've easily stuck with Reimer and got a veteran backup for him via trade or free agency.

I think when both goalies are young, there is a problem with having 1A and 1B tandem. We saw this fail on teams before. Washington is a great example.
- TylerSeguin19

In all honesty I agree with your first part. I would much rather have them adress the more pressing needs.
But nonis said if there is a chance to upgrade any position for the right price, he'd have to look into it. And he did.
And there is a risk it wont work
But no risk, no reward. It could payoff highly.

Flip Bernier to Jersey in a package.
- aminnes

This is interesting. But it makes you wonder why teams much more desperate than us for goaltending didn't step up and match/beat our offer.

It's very possible that the Leafs and Devils have been talking. They probably had a little interest in Scrivens, but Bernier is a different animal.

So far Reimer has the better numbers.
- UsernameUnknown

Bernier's GAA is better, every year in fact, and career SV% is .003 worse.

SO's per games played is identical.

only thing Reimer has over him is games player.

The differences in their career stats aren't significant enough to care about.

The one thing you've got to love about Reimer (aside from his .920+ upside) is that he has the right attitude to play here.

He's proven he can play under the spotlight. Bernier is in for a bit of a wake-up call. A dozen starts per year in California is a lot different than starting in TO.
- Leeman4Gilmour

And playing behind those guys in LA, way different. Bernier sees two second shots a game. The sad part about the "getting a vet" line the leafs have been spouting and then to do this, is that Reimer will take it, and they know it. Bernier needs to go to Jersey, they have old balls in net and cap issues. Put Bernier in a package and try to upgrade in other areas that are actually a problem.

He's a first round pick, of course theyre gunna say he's a future star. And yes people have said he's a legit number one goalie. Be stubborn though...
- TylerSeguin19

quote it. I'll wait.

Flip Reimer to Jersey in a package.
- aminnes

Fixed

1 hour ago
@jonasTSN1050: Nonis says the trade had been worked on for months.


@jonasTSN1050: Nonis said talks began first week of the season.

This is interesting. But it makes you wonder why teams much more desperate than us for goaltending didn't step up and match/beat our offer.

It's very possible that the Leafs and Devils have been talking. They probably had a little interest in Scrivens, but Bernier is a different animal.
- Leeman4Gilmour

NJ couldn't afford to give up young assets. Leafs could. Now Leafs could trade for Vet and rights to Clarkson or whatever.

Just theorizing of course. I don't see it happening.

Bernier's GAA is better, every year in fact, and career SV% is .003 worse.

SO's per games played is identical.

only thing Reimer has over him is games player.

The differences in their career stats aren't significant enough to care about.
- Big_Lightnin

He's also beating him in head injuries