for whatever reason don't have much love for D'Amigo or Ashton.

Think Colborne showed a lot in the 2 playoff games he played,
look forward to see him develop as a leaf next season.

Don't think the leafs move Reimer, but should be interesting to see what else Nonis will do... he seems to we willing to move and shake move here, then when he was with the Nucks organization.
- aries1976

it will be a interesting offseason.. burke and nonis dont see as eye to eye as everyone believes.. i am sure there are more than a few parts he wants to change

for whatever reason don't have much love for D'Amigo or Ashton.

Think Colborne showed a lot in the 2 playoff games he played,
look forward to see him develop as a leaf next season.

Don't think the leafs move Reimer, but should be interesting to see what else Nonis will do... he seems to we willing to move and shake move here, then when he was with the Nucks organization.
- aries1976

As a 3rd line i would go with Mckegg Colborne and 1 signing from free agency maybe a guy like gordon? If we get a guy like gordon and expend kulemin in a trade, we can use both orr and mclaren again

The only thing I take into consideration there is that it doesnt matter which goalie you have in net those last 10 minutes, we lose that game.
In my opnion there is no goalie in the sport to bail us out of that breakdown.
- UsernameUnknown

i disagree.. many times over the years you see a goalie stand on his head.. the teams that have that guy are usually the ones who make the final

there is one every year..

the leafs (frank)ing blew it.. stop handing me this crap..

and no, we dont know about bernier.. its called a projection.. talent analysis..and bernier is better than reimer.. period.
- Dozzer

watch it again then... without emotion..

has a glove hand.. far better rebound control.. everything.. go watch some highlights.. you will see it.. trust me.
- Dozzer

Still though, a very small body of work to judge from but yes, you are right. His rebound control is far superior.....

I'm shocked that the Devils couldn't beat the Leafs offer...
- Flyfreaky

Devils seem to like Frazee and Wedgewood for whatever reason.

maybe it's term that Bernier would want is what Uncle Lou is put off by.

he may be an upgrade on Reimer, it depends on which Reimer shows up next September.... the one that looked good in the playoffs, or the one that played like he did after the concussion he suffered when Gionta hit him.

If Reimer can learn to control rebounds better, he can be an elite goalie, other part of his game are good enough... Bernier just gives us something we can rely upon, if Reimer doesn't improve the questionable parts of his game.. it's a strong safety net.
- aries1976

and here is the thing..

nobody knows who carlyle will put in the net night to night cept carlyle

i think bernier is better than reimer.. its an opinion

i like reimer.. but after that break down i've had doubts

That makes me think... There must be someone out there who specifically goes to parties to poop

Has to be... Odds are good truthfully
- Dozzer

okay - enough party poop talk...

let's talk some serious "not insulting" trolling instead....

1) Nonis turns around and deals Bernier to the Flyers for Couturier
2) Nonis deals Grabovski and Komisarek to the Devils for Anton Volchenkov and Devils 2nd in 2014.
or if this deal falls through
Nonis deals Grabovski and Komisarek to Montreal for Plekanec and Kaberle (just because this would make for great press)... Leafs buyout Plekanec and Habs make Komisarek Captain.
3) Nonis deals JM Liles, Korbinian Holzer, Carl Gunnerson and Jerry D'Amigo to Colorado for Stastny, Jamie McGinn and John Mitchell (yes John Mitchell)


4) signs Clarkson

Devils seem to like Frazee and Wedgewood for whatever reason.

maybe it's term that Bernier would want is what Uncle Lou is put off by.
- aries1976

Maybe you're right, but if there was one team where this trade made 100% sense, it would have been the Devils...

the record is still his.

plain and simple.. so.. if what you are saying is true.. it should of easily been broken by now no?
- Dozzer

Yes, it should be. Unfortunately, our goaltending has been a mess since the last time we traded a promising young talent out of our system.

Based on his career winning percentage, Reimer would have it by now if he played a full season. His first year, he was brought up as a last ditch emergency option. His second year, Gionta concussed him. Last year was a shortened season.

watch it again then... without emotion..
- derm10

i have.. he collapsed back into his crease and stopped challenging..

i dont deny that he got (frank) all for help from his D but sorry.. you want to be champs.. thats simply not good enough

We took a gamble in the Pogge, Rask, Raycroft debacle, too. That move probably did more to burn us for a decade than any other.

I dearly hope the plan is not to trade Reimer and jump in head first on Bernier with no safety net. They really need to give it a year or two before deciding to go all in with one or the other.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Agreed.

But if you believe Scrivens' ceiling is as a backup, then we have just given ourselves a better chance of finding a number 1 we can count on for a few years.

I think Frattin could be a 20 goal guy and who knows about the pick so it could be costly. But quality costs big time.

it will be a interesting offseason.. burke and nonis dont see as eye to eye as everyone believes.. i am sure there are more than a few parts he wants to change
- Dozzer

a lot of there philosophies are similar, but your right, there not the exact... I do think Burke wanted Luongo, and Nonis saw the picture differently, was wasn't completely against it.

this is going to be such a wicked off-season for every team.... lowering cap, buyouts, later draft and later start to UFA's, and less cap space.... going to be load's of chatter.

Yes, it should be. Unfortunately, our goaltending has been a mess since the last time we traded a promising young talent out of our system.

Based on his career winning percentage, Reimer would have it by now if he played a full season. His first year, he was brought up as a last ditch emergency option. His second year, Gionta concussed him. Last year was a shortened season.
- Leeman4Gilmour

listen.. i'm not saying to dump reimer.. but with bernier.. the leafs have a goalie who has a far higher ceiling.

reimer may prove me wrong.. i am not omnipotent.

i just think bernier is better.. a lot of bad goals came from terrible rebound conhtrol.. reims in all honestly.. is (frank)ing terrible at it

As a 3rd line i would go with Mckegg Colborne and 1 signing from free agency maybe a guy like gordon? If we get a guy like gordon and expend kulemin in a trade, we can use both orr and mclaren again
- Mapleleafs_91

i would be for Mcclement and gordon as 3rd and 4th line centers.

Fantastic yet risky trade IMO.
Frattin would have been playing on the 3rd line next year I feel, Scrivens is a back up and a 2nd, who cares...

Not knocking Reimer, he was good last year but an elite goalie in game 7 instead of Reimer is the difference between that loss and a win.

LL's going senile...
- Flyfreaky

Better capitalize on it.

and here is the thing..

nobody knows who carlyle will put in the net night to night cept carlyle

i think bernier is better than reimer.. its an opinion

i like reimer.. but after that break down i've had doubts
- Dozzer

Dozzer.. Carlyle is a good coach, and he will manage the goalies well.
I like this tandem more, and we both agree on that... I rather Bernier be the number 1, but I think Reimer has to outright fail next season for that to happen

he's an upgrade on reimer.. simple as that

and all it took was a second, a fringe nhler back up, and a third liner

the potential upside to the deal far outweighs what was given up
- Dozzer

And if Reimer is better, well...we can still always play Reimer.

We gave up nothing.

In fact, I was ripping a fellow Leafer on here last week who thought we could get Bernie (the Burner? Sick Burn?) for such a low price.

The only thing I take into consideration there is that it doesnt matter which goalie you have in net those last 10 minutes, we lose that game.
In my opnion there is no goalie in the sport to bail us out of that breakdown.
- UsernameUnknown

This.

It seemed like a blur at the time, but looking back, we barely touched the puck those last 10 minutes.

The entire team was in panic mode. Once Boston got that extra attacker, they could've scored as much or as little as they wanted.

Bill Watters ‏@RealBillWatters 3m
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And if Reimer is better, well...we can still always play Reimer.

We gave up nothing.

In fact, I was ripping a fellow Leafer on here last week who thought we could get Bernie (the Burner? Sick Burn?) for such a low price.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think general hockey naming conventions dictate that we're going with "Burnsie".

Bill Watters ‏@RealBillWatters 3m
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- weirdoh

bill Watters is a tool, always been a tool.

And if Reimer is better, well...we can still always play Reimer.

We gave up nothing.

In fact, I was ripping a fellow Leafer on here last week who thought we could get Bernie (the Burner? Sick Burn?) for such a low price.
- Atomic Wedgie

yup.. it was a good move.. nothing lost that anyone should of been attached to

i have.. he collapsed back into his crease and stopped challenging..

i dont deny that he got (frank) all for help from his D but sorry.. you want to be champs.. thats simply not good enough
- Dozzer

As a goalie, you wouldn't be able to do (frank) all with Chara sitting on you and your D not even trying to move him.

I think yeah, sure, there are goalies that could have put up a better fight than Reimer in those 10minutes, but it was just fate. There was nothing we could have done.
And dont forget, without Reimer, there is no game 7.