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dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
Or there is doubt about read's long term signability as a ufa.
- moylander

He could turn out to be the next Ville Leino contract wise.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
Jon Rosen ‏@lakingsinsider 2m

Jonathan Bernier has been traded to Toronto for Matt Frattin, Ben Scrivens, and a second round pick in 2014 or 2015 (Toronto's option)

- PLindbergh31


Best news of the day.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
I don't see the facts in your logic
- Giroux_Is_God


Masons bad years were still stopping the puck at a 90% clip, we're paying someone a lot of $$$ to do the same
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:31 PM ET
So, Bernier is gone, and I am not crying about it. Lots of options out there.

I for one would like to see a trade with ANA involving Hiller and Ryan. What would it take on our part you think?

- Bearintheforest


Anaheim would most likely want: B. Schenn or pick #11, Read and a D prospect, most likely Ghost; this is why I would NOT make this deal!
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:31 PM ET
If Mason is terrible, can he be much worse than posting the 900 save % that Bryzgalov posted last year? At least if Mason provides similar numbers he's doing it at a fraction of the cap hit.
- PLindbergh31


Did you ever watched him in Columbus? How about a 3.39 GAA and a .894 Save %? I like Mason but he's going to have to give me a lot more than 7 games before I ignore his past 4 years as a Number 1 in Columbus. He's a reclaimation project that is going well. Let's just not rush him okay?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:31 PM ET
Best news of the day.
- ob18


Agreed, giving up valuable assets for a guy who has NEVER been a #1 at the NHL level is just foolish.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
He could turn out to be the next Ville Leino contract wise.
- dingo8urbaby


That's why I'd like to see the Flyers get things done quickly. He is one of the better kept secrets in hockey.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
Best news of the day.
- ob18


Agreed, I don't like what LA was asking.

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
Did you ever watched him in Columbus? How about a 3.39 GAA and a .894 Save %? I like Mason but he's going to have to give me a lot more than 7 games before I ignore his past 4 years as a Number 1 in Columbus. He's a reclaimation project that is going well. Let's just not rush him okay?
- flyler


Goals against is a team stat, stopping the puck is more so the goalie, his 3 down years were still at .90% or close to, check Bryzgalov's numbers and compare them, as well as the money your paying.
As well he's what 26? How many goalies start to mature around then? Most of them.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
Anaheim would most likely want: B. Schenn or pick #11, Read and a D prospect, most likely Ghost; this is why I would NOT make this deal!
- BiggE

Who the heck is Ghost?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
Agreed, I don't like what LA was asking.
- flyler


I didn't like the reports either but I didn't want to move more pieces/picks for a real unknown as a #1 in a trade.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
Did you ever watched him in Columbus? How about a 3.39 GAA and a .894 Save %? I like Mason but he's going to have to give me a lot more than 7 games before I ignore his past 4 years as a Number 1 in Columbus. He's a reclaimation project that is going well. Let's just not rush him okay?
- flyler


I understand where you are coming from. 7 games of meaningless hockey shouldn't be a deciding factor. The kid has a pedigree, he won a Calder trophy, and then lost his way. The talent is there, he's got to get in between his ears fixed. Is it a given that happens? Of course not.

That being said, I don't want to bring in a 30+ high priced guy like Miller, or Luongo. Flyers are back to square 1 in between the pipes. What else is new. So frustrating that the solution was right under their nose in Bobrovsky and the entire organization screwed the pooch.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
Masons bad years were still stopping the puck at a 90% clip, we're paying someone a lot of $$$ to do the same
- puckhead17

That's interpretation.

I need the facts
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Who the heck is Ghost?
- dingo8urbaby

Gostisbehere
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
That's exactly what I said yesterday, and I was mjl'ed for it
- puckhead17


I wouldn't worry about it. Just ignore it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
Who the heck is Ghost?
- dingo8urbaby


Flyers top defense prospect
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
That's interpretation.

I need the facts

- Giroux_Is_God


Look them up
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Who the heck is Ghost?
- dingo8urbaby


The Flyers top prospect on the backend. The fact that he's small enough to stand on top of Wedding cakes, shouldn't be a concern to anyone.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
I don't think anyone believes that Mason is a lock to be a top notch #1 goalie. What I do think is that he showed enough down the stretch to at least be given a shot.

I would try to sign either Backstrom (if the cost and length of deal are reasonable) or Emery and let them compete with Mason.

I am big fan of showing some patience. I think Coburn, if used properly, will have a bounce back season and if Grossmann is not healthy by October, you can always acquire a Huskins type to compete with Lauridsen until the big guy is ready to go. The only defenseman I would trade, mainly for cap reasons, is Mez. I just don't think you can afford 4 million in cap space for 3rd pair guy with injury issues

Personally, I would be very happy with Pulock or Ristolainen at #11 and the following roster:

G-Mason
G-Emery or Backstrom
D-Timonen
D-Schenn
D-Coburn
D-Streit
D-Grossmann
D-Gus
D-Ristolainen, Pulock or Gervais if the kid isn't ready to step in.
call-ups: Lauridsen and either Manning or Bourdon if he is healthy
Lines:
Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Schenn-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Zubrus
Talbot-Laughton-Rinaldo
spare forward: Rosehill
call-ups: McGinn, Holmstrom and maybe Cousins
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
The Flyers top prospect on the backend. The fact that he's small enough to stand on top of Wedding cakes, shouldn't be a concern to anyone.
- PLindbergh31


Wouldn't expect much outside a 3rd pair guy with a chance of a 2nd pair at best.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
Look them up
- puckhead17

I'm being facetious, sir.

A satire of our favorite poster here
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
Best news of the day.
- ob18


Jury is still out on that. Can't say either way. If Bernier turns out to be a legit # 1 it will be a missed opportunity.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don't think anyone believes that Mason is a lock to be a top notch #1 goalie. What I do think is that he showed enough down the stretch to at least be given a shot.

I would try to sign either Backstrom (if the cost and length of deal are reasonable) or Emery and let them compete with Mason.

I am big fan of showing some patience. I think Coburn, if used properly, will have a bounce back season and if Grossmann is not healthy by October, you can always acquire a Huskins type to compete with Lauridsen until the big guy is ready to go. The only defenseman I would trade, mainly for cap reasons, is Mez. I just don't think you can afford 4 million in cap space for 3rd pair guy with injury issues

Personally, I would be very happy with Pulock or Ristolainen at #11 and the following roster:

G-Mason
G-Emery or Backstrom
D-Timonen
D-Schenn
D-Coburn
D-Streit
D-Grossmann
D-Gus
D-Ristolainen, Pulock or Gervais if the kid isn't ready to step in.
call-ups: Lauridsen and either Manning or Bourdon if he is healthy
Lines:
Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Schenn-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Zubrus
Talbot-Laughton-Rinaldo
spare forward: Rosehill
call-ups: McGinn, Holmstrom and maybe Cousins

- BiggE


MAB is on a one way contract. If he is sent to the AHL, he will remain there for the entire season
FlyerAdam30
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sewell, NJ
Joined: 04.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don't know if Bernier is gonna be a great goalie or not, but what I do know is its not easy to find 25 yr old former 1st round picks who have been groomed slowly. To me he's got a pretty good chance to succeed. I hear some of you how there are other options but I didn't want another vet like Backstrom or Emery. It's no guarantee but it'd be nice to try and get a young goalie who wil be here awhile. The flyers have a terrible track record with their 2nd rounders, when they actually ise them. I wouldn't have thought twice about giving that up with Read. I think a lot of people are getting carried away with Matt read too. I think at his age, his ceiling is a good 2nd liner, but I'm not ready to give him 4 million a yr yet
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Wouldn't expect much outside a 3rd pair guy with a chance of a 2nd pair at best.
- ob18


If he turns out to be an every day NHL'er it would be good by me.
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