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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
Why Mantha?
- ob18


I mention Mantha because first he is a forward who apparently won't wow you in any particular physical attribute other then an innate ability to score goals. Of course, his production really increased this past season, plus he is one of the older prospects in the draft, so there will be a question whether his numbers were inflated because of his age.

Personally, I find him an intriguing prospect from what I have read.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
Jim Carey looked like a legit elite goalie through his first 60+ games.
Bernier is a can't-miss HOFer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
exp as a reporter and having contacts like ASF doesn't matter...only in an alternate universe
- isaiah520


What matters is his track record. He's clueless. He's never been right about squat!

Let's look at this from a common sense perspective. ASF now works for the Flyers. How long do you think that will last if he's found leaking internal information to his bud MacNow?
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 23 @ 5:21 PM ET
Very possibly. I'm just tossing names at the wall now.
- Jsaquella


Lehner, as unproven as he is, will be the real deal very soon. Anderson/Lehner this season, I can see Lehner taking the starter's spot at some point. He is most definitely off limits, almost on the same level as untouchable as Karlsson is.

I'm definitely on the buyout Bryz train, bring in a vet to tandem with Mason this season. Whether that be via trade (Halak, Hiller, Reimer), or UFA (Backstrom, Emery, other).

Halak and Hiller only have 1 year left each until UFA, so if Mason falters or one of those guys shines, there can be a definite plan going forward after next season. Reimer would be interesting, as he is RFA like Mason after this coming season.

If Luongo gets bought out, I sign him in a heartbeat. He still has 5-6 solid years left in him.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:21 PM ET
I just think the Flyers have too much money tied up in defense. This group doesn't mesh well together imo.
- stveshdy



They've got some guys up front like Giroux and Read that are providing incredible value for the time being... of course, that's going to end soon, so yeah, signing Streit to that kind of contract just made an already bad situation much worse, no matter how badly they needed his skillset right now.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 5:23 PM ET
exp as a reporter and having contacts like ASF doesn't matter...only in an alternate universe
- isaiah520



Are you seriously arguing that Macnow...GLEN Macnow, has a clue about hockey?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:23 PM ET
They've got some guys up front like Giroux and Read that are providing incredible value for the time being... of course, that's going to end soon, so yeah, signing Streit to that kind of contract just made an already bad situation much worse, no matter how badly they needed his skillset right now.
- Tomahawk


I agree. Give it two years and people will be female doging about his cap hit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
They've got some guys up front like Giroux and Read that are providing incredible value for the time being... of course, that's going to end soon, so yeah, signing Streit to that kind of contract just made an already bad situation much worse, no matter how badly they needed his skillset right now.
- Tomahawk



Really impossible to know that when none of us have any idea how the Flyers are going to proceed. The Cap has never stopped the Flyers from putting a good team on the ice.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
Are you seriously arguing that Macnow...GLEN Macnow, has a clue about hockey?
- MBFlyerfan


I sure hope not.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
I agree. Give it two years and people will be female doging about his cap hit.
- stveshdy


Two years! It's happening already.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
Really impossible to know that when none of us have any idea how the Flyers are going to proceed. The Cap has never stopped the Flyers from putting a good team on the ice.
- MJL


2013
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
I'm definitely on the buyout Bryz train, bring in a vet to tandem with Mason this season. Whether that be via trade (Halak, Hiller, Reimer), or UFA (Backstrom, Emery, other).

Halak and Hiller only have 1 year left each until UFA, so if Mason falters or one of those guys shines, there can be a definite plan going forward after next season. Reimer would be interesting, as he is RFA like Mason after this coming season.

- Rocktane



I wouldn't mind seeing them give Bryz another year, but only because I could see Mason having a much easier time usurping the starting role and shining...

Having Luongo (or another legit vet starter) would basically relegate Mason to the back burner, and with him being on a 1-year discount, you probably miss the opportunity to see what he's got.

On the flipside, a tandem of Emery and Mason could easily fall apart before our eyes... we've seen first-hand how delicate Emery's hip situation is... with no safety net, Mason could buckle under the added pressure.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
2013
- jmatchett383


If you're saying that the Flyers didn't have a solid roster in 2013, I'd disagree. They underachieved for a variety of reasons. There were a few holes in the lineup, but overall, there was plenty of talent for the Flyers to be a playoff team.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
Two years! It's happening already.
- MJL



Streit hasn't even officially signed his contract.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 5:28 PM ET
I agree. Give it two years and people will be female doging about his cap hit.
- stveshdy



Give it two months... the people that hated Carle as a Flyer are going to be waxing poetic about his play after they see Streit at ES.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:28 PM ET
Streit hasn't even officially signed his contract.
- ravishingone


Exactly!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
Two years! It's happening already.
- MJL


When people watch him play and if he performs badly in his own end its only going to get worse. Right now people are okay with the deal b/c of the need for a puck mover and another shooter from the point on the PP.

There's a reason the Islanders traded him away for basically nothing (Red Flag to me).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
Give it two months... the people that hated Carle as a Flyer are going to be waxing poetic about his play after they see Streit at ES.
- Tomahawk


Most likely. But that's part of the problem. Knowing what you're getting and having unreasonable expectations. That type of defenseman is not well favored in Philadelphia.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
When people watch him play and if he performs badly in his own end its only going to get worse. Right now people are okay with the deal b/c of the need for a puck mover and another shooter from the point.

There's a reason the Islanders traded him away for basically nothing (Red Flag to me).

- stveshdy


It was financial reasons for the Islanders. And they didn't have much leverage to ask for much more. That really has nothing to do with the player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
If you're saying that the Flyers didn't have a solid roster in 2013, I'd disagree. They underachieved for a variety of reasons. There were a few holes in the lineup, but overall, there was plenty of talent for the Flyers to be a playoff team.
- MJL


Without the salary cap in place, they could have:
- Resigned your boy Carle
- Resigned Jagr
- Given an even more insane offer to Weber ($11M/year kind of deal)

Those 3 moves (even 2 of them) could have had a large positive impact on the team this season.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:31 PM ET
Most likely. But that's part of the problem. Knowing what you're getting and having unreasonable expectations. That type of defenseman is not well favored in Philadelphia.
- MJL


Do you honestly believe he is worth that contract?

Forget what the market demands b/c you don't have to pay it. The Flyers could go in another direction all together.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:33 PM ET
It was financial reasons for the Islanders. And they didn't have much leverage to ask for much more. That really has nothing to do with the player.
- MJL


The Islanders know he isn't worth 5.25 per year. He was playing on their third pairing. He's not that great in his own end. The Islanders could keep him if they wanted to but they made the right choice by getting anything for him.

flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jun 23 @ 5:34 PM ET
When people watch him play and if he performs badly in his own end its only going to get worse. Right now people are okay with the deal b/c of the need for a puck mover and another shooter from the point on the PP.

There's a reason the Islanders traded him away for basically nothing (Red Flag to me).

- stveshdy


Not saying he is the fix all but the Islanders offered him 4.75/ per at 3 years I believe. He wanted a better deal so Islanders traded him to Philly where he got a bit more and another year.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
I sure hope not.
- ob18


What is your opinion of Mantha?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
Not saying he is the fix all but the Islanders offered him 4.75/ per at 3 years I believe. He wanted a better deal so Islanders traded him to Philly where he got a bit more and another year.
- flyerfan28


That year and money is a big difference.

We should know that here.

A player that's going to be 36, you try to sign to minimal years as possible imo.

I'll go back to being positive now.
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