I have issues with Halak, too. I wouldn't be running out and offering a premium for him, either. Just another option.

Hell, instead of Bernier or Reimer, why not see if they could pry a guy like Robin Lehner out of Ottawa? Maybe not ready to be a number one right now, but could split time with Mason for a year or two.

There's always options.
- Jsaquella

i think lehner is untouchable for them

I have issues with Halak, too. I wouldn't be running out and offering a premium for him, either. Just another option.

Hell, instead of Bernier or Reimer, why not see if they could pry a guy like Robin Lehner out of Ottawa? Maybe not ready to be a number one right now, but could split time with Mason for a year or two.

There's always options.
- Jsaquella

I agree, I have been against using up valuable assets to acquire another goalie before seeing what Mason can do in a full season. I would much rather sign Backstrom (if a reasonable contract can be worked out) or Emery and hold on to all of our young talent and draft picks.

I am only in favor of moving Schenn, Couturier or our current or future 1st round picks if someone like Weber, OEL or Pietrangelo is coming back, and really can't see any of those 3 being moved.

i think lehner is untouchable for them
- isaiah520

Very possibly. I'm just tossing names at the wall now.

I agree, I have been against using up valuable assets to acquire another goalie before seeing what Mason can do in a full season. I would much rather sign Backstrom (if a reasonable contract can be worked out) or Emery and hold on to all of our young talent and draft picks.

I am only in favor of moving Schenn, Couturier or our current or future 1st round picks if someone like Weber, OEL or Pietrangelo is coming back, and really can't see any of those 3 being moved.
- BiggE

I'd be asking the Leafs about Reimer now that they have Bernier.

I'd be asking the Leafs about Reimer now that they have Bernier.
- Jsaquella

The GM said every player is available including the captain.

Just to clarify in fairness to Glen and Sarah (re Bryz exit interview) RT @RealGlenMacnow: “@sbaickerCSN:
"no, I never said Giroux said that.” Nor did I. Just said G and others unhappy w him.



sometimes you have to take your medicine. apologies.
- isaiah520

I would just eliminate exit interviews all together from the equation. And focus on what we know to be fact.
Glen Macnow is about as clueless as they come. He's never been right about anything.

what happened to all the Bryz lovers? they should ship Homer with him

I honestly do agree with this. Next year's an 82-game season -- there's no reason to lose perspective right now, feel desperate because the guy with 62 career starts got moved.

I'm not saying the Flyers have to go with Steve Mason or bust -- I'm not saying that, at all.

But you can go 12-15 games with the guy at the start of a season, after a full offseason and preseason of coaching, and see if the seven-game sample from the end of last season means he's got something figured out in his game -- or not.

I know the Flyers' history of goaltenders like everybody else, but one thing that has usually been the case: The goalies have usually come up small in the postseason, not the regular season. Granted, that's a big deal, and I'm not pretending that doesn't matter.

But at the same time, the Flyers' investment in forwards and defense means quite a few goalies can come in and post a .915 goals-against -- it's been done all the time with the Flyers.

To be honest...Ilya Bryzgalov last year was the exception for that, for any number of reasons. But that .900 SVPCT last year...that truly was an aberration for the Flyers, and while it wasn't entirely Bryzgalov's fault, he certainly didn't make enough saves for me to sit here and say that I know he'd do better than Mason, you know?
- AllInForFlyers

I believe people are feeling desparate and concerned because they do not want Bryzgalov back. I'm leaning towards that angle as you know, with this teams history, he will go down with an injury that sticks him to us for the duration.

This isn't me offering my support, but rather gauging interest from the people here. If you can get Luongo after a CBO, do you make a 3 year deal for him?

I believe people are feeling desparate and concerned because they do not want Bryzgalov back. I'm leaning towards that angle as you know, with this teams history, he will go down with an injury that sticks him to us for the duration.

This isn't me offering my support, but rather gauging interest from the people here. If you can get Luongo after a CBO, do you make a 3 year deal for him?
- Flyers1218

In a heartbeat. I like Luongo.

Don't see how that is.
- MJL

Mind you I'm not a fan of either player. What's the ceiling level on a player like Matt Fratton? How does he fit in with LA, which is already a good team? Why must LA get a much lesser back up in a goaltending market that might already be good...Or do we view this as Boucher for Handzus and Esche?

Disagree. That's extreme.
- stveshdy

It's not extreme at all. Just watch LA play, and then watch the Flyers play. The difference is astonishing. Watch LA, Chicago, and Boston play. There are exceptions when they get loose, such as in game 4. But that was game in and game out with the Flyers last Season. They were horrendous defensively. And Bryzgalov kept the score close in a lot of games.

what happened to all the Bryz lovers? they should ship Homer with him
- vejim

I admit I was one who was pushing to get Bryz that year he signed. However, I would of passed on that contract he signed. I don't believe any goalie is worth that kind of deal.

I'd be asking the Leafs about Reimer now that they have Bernier.
- Jsaquella

It's interesting -- I read a lot of the Vancouver media, and they were always all over Dave Nonis for never being aggressive in the trade market. It was that way for years, and they backed it up with solid analysis.

I'm curious to see if they're scared to package James Reimer in a deal that brings them a Top 6 center. If they're all in on Jonathan Bernier -- and with the package they gave up, they look like they are -- then you man up and move Reimer somewhere and get that done.

It's not extreme at all. Just watch LA play, and then watch the Flyers play. The difference is astonishing. Watch LA, Chicago, and Boston play. There are exceptions when they get loose, such as in game 4. But that was game in and game out with the Flyers last Season. They were horrendous defensively. And Bryzgalov kept the score close in a lot of games.
- MJL

Boston was struggle down the stretch this year. They should of lost Game 7 against the Leafs. They give up plenty of scoring chances.

Difference is Rask can make saves.

I'd be asking the Leafs about Reimer now that they have Bernier.
- Jsaquella

That's interesting...

Special teams come into play. Hot goalie. Turnovers. Bad line changes. Numerous things can come into play.
- stveshdy

My point is that if you want to win the Cup, you'll be playing against teams that have the same high level of work ethic and effort.

It's interesting -- I read a lot of the Vancouver media, and they were always all over Dave Nonis for never being aggressive in the trade market. It was that way for years, and they backed it up with solid analysis.

I'm curious to see if they're scared to package James Reimer in a deal that brings them a Top 6 center. If they're all in on Jonathan Bernier -- and with the package they gave up, they look like they are -- then you man up and move Reimer somewhere and get that done.
- AllInForFlyers

Rumor is they're asking Edmonton about Sam Gagner. I'd guess that MacTavish would want Reimer as part of the deal

My point is that if you want to win the Cup, you'll be playing against teams that have the same high level of work ethic and effort.
- MJL

My point is that systems can be overrated.

Boston was struggle down the stretch this year. They should of lost Game 7 against the Leafs. They give up plenty of scoring chances.
- stveshdy

No they don't. Ten bell scoring opportunities are very limited against Boston. Boston gave up 2.21 goals a game in the Regular Season. And 2.10 in the playoffs.

i think lehner is untouchable for them
- isaiah520

He's in the same boat as Bernier. He doesn't have a proven track record either.

My point is that systems can be overrated.
- stveshdy

I don't disagree. Although they are important.

No they don't. Ten bell scoring opportunities are very limited against Boston. Boston gave up 2.21 goals a game in the Regular Season. And 2.10 in the playoffs.
- MJL

Goals against doesn't necessarily mean they don't give up scoring chances.

A lot factors into that. If your a team that gets penalized a lot and you give up numerous goals during the year it will hurt your gaa.

The GM said every player is available including the captain.
- stveshdy

Nonis probably doesn't feel much loyalty to any of the players Brian Burke was hanging his hat on... particularly Kessel, Phaneuf, and Reimer.

I believe people are feeling desparate and concerned because they do not want Bryzgalov back. I'm leaning towards that angle as you know, with this teams history, he will go down with an injury that sticks him to us for the duration.

This isn't me offering my support, but rather gauging interest from the people here. If you can get Luongo after a CBO, do you make a 3 year deal for him?
- Flyers1218

You know, that's an interesting question.

I THINK, repeat THINK, Roberto Luongo would probably come in here and post something like a .920 SVPCT for the first couple of years -- I just think that's where he is in his career. I think he's that kind of goaltender.

The only thing I wonder is this: Where is his head at if he comes to Philadelphia? I always wonder about players who pick location over team -- if you believe what you read, the reason he didn't get moved before the lockout was because he was fixated on going back to Florida, because that is where his wife is from. Wanted no part of Toronto, a few other rumored locations.

See...to me, that's a red flag. It doesn't make him a bad player or person. But I always kinda wonder about guys who obsess over where they're playing.

I don't disagree. Although they are important.
- MJL

You can have the best system but you still need players to do what you teach them.


They can be important but lets face it most NHL teams should be able to play any system