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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:40 AM ET
so basically no one......by the way I got some land in Florida if you believe everything you here.
- toddkac

Vanek's gone. Get over it.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
LOL this blog made me laugh. I hate that bloggers like Garth and clouts start arguments between the fans.

If Edmonton wants players from buffalo, I'd imagine it'd be Myers, mcnabb, pysyk or foligno.

- ystoil


I am sure you would love to have them, but of course, 90% of your team are untouchable and you would never get any of them for spare parts.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
How come that Newfie Adam is trending down in point in the ahl. Skating issues correct?
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
How come that Newfie Adam is trending down in point in the ahl. Skating issues correct?
- ystoil


He looks like a turtle
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
Vanek's gone. Get over it.
- OneKaneOneCup

why do i have to get over? Do you read what you post? How does that even fit what I write? I could care less about Vanek I would rather have the assets.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
Interestingly enough, "advance statistics" say that Miller is amongst the NHLs best keepers in save % during 5 on 5 play.
- SuperCat


Well considering where he once was, even a significant drop in play would leave him in a good spot in comparison. I would be okay signing Miller a year from now to a reasonable contract to be honest (something like 4yrs 18 mil), but right now there are too many question marks to make a significant offer in trade.
1. Is he still the Vezina worthy goalie he was 4 years ago?
2.would he sign an extention at a reasonable hit?
3. Could I get a better deal from the Canucks for Luongo?
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
Interestingly enough, "advance statistics" say that Miller is amongst the NHLs best keepers in save % during 5 on 5 play.
- SuperCat

Miller is a good goalie.....When you lose you get the blame.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
Well considering where he once was, even a significant drop in play would leave him in a good spot in comparison. I would be okay signing Miller a year from now to a reasonable contract to be honest (something like 4yrs 18 mil), but right now there are too many question marks to make a significant offer in trade.
1. Is he still the Vezina worthy goalie he was 4 years ago?
2.would he sign an extention at a reasonable hit?
3. Could I get a better deal from the Canucks for Luongo?

- Jeropotato

Luongo? Why dont you go after Dipietro while your at it.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
Well considering where he once was, even a significant drop in play would leave him in a good spot in comparison. I would be okay signing Miller a year from now to a reasonable contract to be honest (something like 4yrs 18 mil), but right now there are too many question marks to make a significant offer in trade.
1. Is he still the Vezina worthy goalie he was 4 years ago?
2.would he sign an extention at a reasonable hit?
3. Could I get a better deal from the Canucks for Luongo?

- Jeropotato


go ahead and handcuff yourself for the next decade to lu
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
Luongo? Why dont you go after Dipietro while your at it.
- toddkac

I don't want either, but if looking at a long term veteran Goalie I would rather have Lou. Contract is poop but he is still better than Miller.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
go ahead and handcuff yourself for the next decade to lu
- Cheeseballin

What is one year of Miller actually worth in trade?
benmacw
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
Hemsky is 29 years old, how in the world is that old? That is a player in his prime. Yes hes often injured but what most people dont know or ignore is the fact that his injuries are always from the same shoulder, which he had a big surgery for last year to correct. Last year was the first year he came to play healthy in 5 years but unfortunately hurt his foot, how im not sure, blocked shot maybe? When he is healthy he can be a PPG player. Even when hes not he doesnt put up terrible numbers.
GP G A PTS
2008-09 Edmonton Oilers NHL 72 23 43 66
2009-10 Edmonton Oilers NHL 22 7 15 22
2010-11 Edmonton Oilers NHL 47 14 28 42
2011-12 Edmonton Oilers NHL 69 10 26 36
2012-13 Pardubice HC Czech 27 14 18 32
2012-13 Edmonton Oilers NHL 38 9 11 20


2011-2012 was the last year he played on his injured shoulder.
oilers2k14
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 09.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Tyler Myers and Grigorenko to edmonton for L.Smid, Paajarvi, and a 2nd round pick.

I too can troll.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
What is one year of Miller actually worth in trade?
- Jeropotato


Not much. Trading for Lu would do more damage to your team.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
Not much. Trading for Lu would do more damage to your team.
- Cheeseballin

In about 4 or 5 years, yes it would. Truth is, we are sticking with Dubnyk for another year, so Miller, Luongo, Bernier, all these (frank)s are of little concern to use this year.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
Tyler Myers and Grigorenko to edmonton for L.Smid, Paajarvi, and a 2nd round pick.

I too can troll.

- oilers2k14
its not really trolling for sabres fans your in a sabres forum

Your trade proposal just makes you look stupid.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
yes trrade our two best young Centers on the team when the sabres are rebuilding and get draft picks that will take another 2 or 3 years
- toddkac


If BUF wants #7 it will cost them Myers + Stafford...and maybe another asset/prospect D-man. EDM will turn around and deal Hemsky for a later 1st round pick - maybe to columbus...
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
so basically no one......by the way I got some land in Florida if you believe everything you here.

Vanek said if it is short rebuild he would stay.

Miller will say to the media whatever is PC.

- toddkac


Vanek isnt staying. Believe what you will but he most definitely wants out. Hes already turned down multiple attempts at an extension
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:02 PM ET
If BUF wants #7 it will cost them Myers + Stafford...and maybe another asset/prospect D-man. EDM will turn around and deal Hemsky for a later 1st round pick - maybe to columbus...
- mventres

sure.....I think it is hilarious how fans think they know what a pick is worth.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
Vanek isnt staying. Believe what you will but he most definitely wants out. Hes already turned down multiple attempts at an extension
- CaptPantalones

Who cares what I believe.....Vanek wont be traded at the draft unless Darcy gets what he wants therefore if he is not traded at the draft Vanek will get traded at the trade deadline to the highest bidder if he doesn't go at the draft....that is what I believe

I am not a Vanek fan, I could care less about Vanek
sabres wiith assets for Vanek > Sabres with Vanek.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
Garth is pumping Staffords tires a bit too. He scored 30 exactly once. He is on average about a 17 goal scorer. Not bad but not great.Honestly, player for player, I wouldn't offer more than Hemmer. Unless of course they want Horcoff.
- Jeropotato



I agree however Hemsky is also being over-hyped. The guy can't stay healthy & when he is, only shows up when he wants to. He's a streaky player because of that but when you combine how often he's injured, no GM is going to give up a boat-load for him.

And those rumors about a 1st & a prospect at the trade deadline are all a bunch of b.s in my opinion. I don't care if the Oilers were in the playoff hunt or not, if that's what Tambi turned down, then maybe that's why he's no longer the GM.

You won't get that in return now!!

I still think the Oilers offer up the 7th for a big forward with skill - I just have a feeling MacT is going to do just that.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:16 PM ET
Tyler Myers and Grigorenko to edmonton for L.Smid, Paajarvi, and a 2nd round pick.

I too can troll.

- oilers2k14


Let me say this . You are a darn good one ! Your grasp with reality is as out of touch as the top trolls around . Your mother must be so proud !!!
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
Who cares what I believe.....Vanek wont be traded at the draft unless Darcy gets what he wants therefore if he is not traded at the draft Vanek will get traded at the trade deadline to the highest bidder if he doesn't go at the draft....that is what I believe

I am not a Vanek fan, I could care less about Vanek
sabres wiith assets for Vanek > Sabres with Vanek.

- toddkac

Wait so how do you know so much about What Darcy will do?
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:25 PM ET
Who cares what I believe.....Vanek wont be traded at the draft unless Darcy gets what he wants therefore if he is not traded at the draft Vanek will get traded at the trade deadline to the highest bidder if he doesn't go at the draft....that is what I believe

I am not a Vanek fan, I could care less about Vanek
sabres wiith assets for Vanek > Sabres with Vanek.

- toddkac


There not going to get full value for Vanek at the deadline. Thats why IMO he gets moved at the draft or shortly after. Teams are going to want him for a full year. A full year of play and a full season to negotiate
Canhockeyfan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.02.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:27 PM ET
If he were a cancer in the locker room his teammates would not have voted him team MVP. The media blows it out of proportion
- OneKaneOneCup

Well if his teammates love him soooo much keep him and extend his contract.
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