This is Pro sports. The problem is that you keep referencing an exit interview that there is no factual information of what that interview consisted of. It has zero to do with whether I like it or not. This is really simple. It's about performance on the ice, and the contract issues. Nothing more. Because everything else is just speculation and interpretations of comments with an obvious bias. And anonymous quotes and hearsay about what teammates have said and feel. That can't be substantiated. Why even consider any of that? When a very valid case can be made to buyout Bryzgalov based on what we know to be fact? Makes no sense. It's just BS drama.
- MJL

then how come cechmanek was cast off? he was the best goalie we had since hextall and it's not even close.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=51275
why was he let go if the 2 factors you cited are the only ones considered?

PART 3: 2013 Mini Mock Draft

NHL.com's Steven Hoffner takes a look at who could go where in this year's Draft

Pulock up to #7.

Nurse at #11.



Who gives a crap about his relation to McNabb?
- wolfhounds

that would be a neg

then how come cechmanek was cast off? he was the best goalie we had since hextall and it's not even close.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=51275
why was he let go if the 2 factors you cited are the only ones considered?
- isaiah520

Excellent sir!!!

I think thats more for career ending injuries. I'm not sure that Bryz can just roll an ankle and not be bought out.
- PhillySportsGuy

Maybe, not sure the official rule, but the buyout period is only like a week long. If the player can't pass a physical during that time period im not sure he can be bought out. I remember there were writers mentioning Briere's concussion issues this past season in relation to impacting his buyout.

then how come cechmanek was cast off? he was the best goalie we had since hextall and it's not even close.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=51275
why was he let go if the 2 factors you cited are the only ones considered?
- isaiah520

Dont waste your time. Anyone that shall put on the jersey is a god for life.

Orange coloured glasses.

then how come cechmanek was cast off? he was the best goalie we had since hextall and it's not even close.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=51275
why was he let go if the 2 factors you cited are the only ones considered?
- isaiah520

Lindros, too... stripping of the captaincy and the two-way Q.O. jab didn't have a thing to do w/ his concussions or his on-ice play... that was the team sending a message to the player that he was putting himself ahead of the team, and they eventually dealt him over it after he held out for a full year.

I think we missed the most important piece of the article. Bryz is "the smartest player Winter has ever worked with"

This coming after Bryz said He understood why Stalin did what he did
- PhillySportsGuy

If he was so smart he would learn how to keep his trap shut and not say stupid things just to grab headlines. I think he is an ego maniac suffering for attention.

Now we know why Dreger and McKenzie say Bryz is likely gone
- isaiah520

I took a look at who wrote the article and then closed it.

PART 3: 2013 Mini Mock Draft

NHL.com's Steven Hoffner takes a look at who could go where in this year's Draft

Pulock up to #7.

Nurse at #11.



Who gives a crap about his relation to McNabb?
- wolfhounds

I wouldn't put too much stock in those rankings. Nickushkin dropping out of top 5?

I took a look at who wrote the article and then closed it.
- ob18

reading what ritch winter had to say and revealing himself as a dissembler was worth the read

If he was so smart he would learn how to keep his trap shut and not say stupid things just to grab headlines. I think he is an ego maniac suffering for attention.
- section32

Which is funny because at the end of it this is all about the contract vs play.

He ran out after the first season here saying he wouldnt wish what he went through on his worst enemy, and that it at times distracted him from his play.

He makes his own bed too often. This organization is turning into a laughing stock because of that fool. Buy him out already.

If he was so smart he would learn how to keep his trap shut and not say stupid things just to grab headlines. I think he is an ego maniac suffering for attention.
- section32

He doesn't come off that way to me. He seems more like a guy who doesn't recognize the feelings of others and how certain things will be perceived. He says whats on his mind without thinking about the players, coaches or management.

Sometimes he even comes off arrogant. Like the rest of the world isn't as smart as him.

that would be a neg
- isaiah520

I don't view it as a negative at all, if anything having that in his corner could very well help him have a better & even more prepared mindset on how & what to be as a pro athlete.

That being said does he fall to #11, I'd lean towards no.

reading what ritch winter had to say and revealing himself as a dissembler was worth the read
- isaiah520

I still won't likely read it. Do not care for Frank as a write at all.

then how come cechmanek was cast off? he was the best goalie we had since hextall and it's not even close.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=51275
why was he let go if the 2 factors you cited are the only ones considered?
- isaiah520

I couldn't tell you why Cechmanek was cast off. That is irrelevant. And has zero to do with the Bryzgalov situation.

I posted this before, and you glossed over it. If Bryzgalov has a .920 SV% and a 2.20 GAA, would it matter that Giroux doesn't like him? The answer to that rhetorical question tells you everything you need to know.

reading what ritch winter had to say and revealing himself as a dissembler was worth the read
- isaiah520

That is an interpretation, and an opinion. Certainly not a fact.

reading what ritch winter had to say and revealing himself as a dissembler was worth the read
- isaiah520

Ironically, Rich Winters also represents Meszaros and Coburn, the other two guys who are on the hot seat this summer.

(Manning and Walker, too)

I couldn't tell you why Cechmanek was cast off. That is irrelevant. And has zero to do with the Bryzgalov situation.

I posted this before, and you glossed over it. If Bryzgalov has a .920 SV% and a 2.20 GAA, would it matter that Giroux doesn't like him? The answer to that rhetorical question tells you everything you need to know.
- MJL

It would matter, but they wouldn't get rid of him. We've all played sports and know that a team that likes each other plays better than a team that doesn't.

How can the captain call out a teammate if he needs to? If he calls out Bryz, Bryz will think he's singling him out. It's a dynamic that only works when a team can overcome it through sheer talent.

He doesn't come off that way to me. He seems more like a guy who doesn't recognize the feelings of others and how certain things will be perceived. He says whats on his mind without thinking about the players, coaches or management.

Sometimes he even comes off arrogant. Like the rest of the world isn't as smart as him.
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree with that.

It would matter, but they wouldn't get rid of him. We've all played sports and know that a team that likes each other plays better than a team that doesn't.

How can the captain call out a teammate if he needs to? If he calls out Bryz, Bryz will think he's singling him out. It's a dynamic that only works when a team can overcome it through sheer talent.
- PhillySportsGuy

Winning is everything. When winning, some things don't matter. When losing they do. The end result is that winning is the only thing that matters. And how a player plays, and lives up to his contract is the only thing that matters.

Winning is everything. When winning, some things don't matter. When losing they do. The end result is that winning is the only thing that matters. And how a player plays, and lives up to his contract is the only thing that matters.
- MJL

Thats true. Over the course of 82 games and the playoffs, the Stanley Cup Champ always faces adversity at least once. It's difficult to come together in those instances when the team isn't getting along. Character is measured through failure, not success.

I'm tired of the Bryz show, time to turn the page, move on, whatever...is Mason the next hero? who knows, can't be much worse than bryz and the albatross of a cap hit that the flyers signed him to.

Quickly grab another bandaid goalie for next year that doesn't cost you too much and work from there. We spend top dollars we have goalie issues, we spend average dollars we have goalie issues. At least with the latter the flyers can afford to overspend on players in front of that goalie.

Remember never look someone in the eye while eating a banana!

Winning is everything. When winning, some things don't matter. When losing they do. The end result is that winning is the only thing that matters. And how a player plays, and lives up to his contract is the only thing that matters.
- MJL

They had a 105 pt season, an Eastern Conference crown, and came within 1 win of the Finals the year before they ended the Lindros circus for good.

Thats true. Over the course of 82 games and the playoffs, the Stanley Cup Champ always faces adversity at least once. It's difficult to come together in those instances when the team isn't getting along. Character is measured through failure, not success.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think it's naive to think that on every successful team that every player get's a long and likes each other. That is the case with any group of people that get together in any profession. When the team as a whole isn't getting a long, I agree. But it's usually losing that causes that. When there's one individual that a few players don't like. Not a big deal.

I couldn't tell you why Cechmanek was cast off. That is irrelevant. And has zero to do with the Bryzgalov situation.

I posted this before, and you glossed over it. If Bryzgalov has a .920 SV% and a 2.20 GAA, would it matter that Giroux doesn't like him? The answer to that rhetorical question tells you everything you need to know.
- MJL

only.irrelevant.because.it.obliterates.your.argument.