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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
Hossa at this stage of his career would be a nice signing here in philly.
- dingo8urbaby


Depends on his price and years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
Both of those players will look for a bigger role. The Flyers have younger players who need to step into those roles to grow. They have plenty of leadership imo. Its time to be smart when adding players, not just high priced vets. Morrow is done. Jagr is going to be expensive and he shouldn't be on our top two lines at this point.
- stveshdy


Beat me to it. Pretty much echoes my thoughts exactly.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
Both of those players will look for a bigger role. The Flyers have younger players who need to step into those roles to grow. They have plenty of leadership imo. Its time to be smart when adding players, not just high priced vets. Morrow is done. Jagr is going to be expensive and he shouldn't be on our top two lines at this point.
- stveshdy


That leadership really stepped up before the arrival of Pronger and this season
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:59 PM ET
Depends on his price and years.
- stveshdy

I'm not worried about it. He is 33, still a great player now. He could slow down but he has Jagr like skill.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
As we're getting close to the draft, any scuttle butt on whose draft stock is rising and falling? For example, it seems Nichkushin is all over the board if he will go top 5 or drop.
- ravishingone


It seems Fucale is rising into many mocks top 12 picks. Others maybe Frederik Gauthier, Anthony Mantha, & Mirco Mueller.

I've already said it but I'm looking to keep an eye on Curtis Lazar even at #11.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'm not worried about it. He is 33, still a great player now. He could slow down but he has Jagr like skill.
- dingo8urbaby

prob a future HOF'er...particularly if he gets to 500 goals.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
prob a future HOF'er...particularly if he gets to 500 goals.
- isaiah520

I would still give him 5 to 7 years. Money seems more tricky to me then how long we sign him for.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
wouldn't want him to adopt mcnabb's victim mentality. would love if he had a career arc that was as successful, though.
- isaiah520

I don't really get the whole nurse and McNabb thing. I mean it could possibly mean something if they were blood related, but they aren't. I feel like the media makes too much out of nurse being his nephew. Just my 2 cents
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
It seems Fucale is rising into many mocks top 12 picks. Others maybe Frederik Gauthier, Anthony Mantha, & Mirco Mueller.

I've already said it but I'm looking to keep an eye on Curtis Lazar even at #11.

- ob18


Lazar is an intriguing prospect. A big forward with plus speed is a good combination. What about Hagg? I'm not sure he lasts to the second round.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
Lazar is an intriguing prospect. A big forward with plus speed is a good combination. What about Hagg? I'm not sure he lasts to the second round.
- ravishingone


I don't think he will either perhaps he's a Red Wing, haha
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
It seems Fucale is rising into many mocks top 12 picks. Others maybe Frederik Gauthier, Anthony Mantha, & Mirco Mueller.

I've already said it but I'm looking to keep an eye on Curtis Lazar even at #11.

- ob18

I think Fucale has the talent to go in the top 15. That said I think he makes the most sense going to Calgary at 22 or 28. Too much depth to take a goalie before then imo
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:15 PM ET
I don't think he will either perhaps he's a Red Wing, haha
- ob18


Curious, what are your top 6 ranked d-men headed into the draft again?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
I don't really get the whole nurse and McNabb thing. I mean it could possibly mean something if they were blood related, but they aren't. I feel like the media makes too much out of nurse being his nephew. Just my 2 cents
- fecondo

the way mcnabb tried to insert himself into RG III's life was cringe-worthy, so i'd be wary of Nurse being given preconceived notions about Philly as a sports town. not a deal breaker by any stretch, but somewhat wary.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
Curious, what are your top 6 ranked d-men headed into the draft again?
- ravishingone


Jones
Ristolainen
Zadorov
Nurse
Pulock
Hagg
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
Jones
Ristolainen
Zadorov
Nurse
Pulock
Hagg

- ob18


What I have read about Ristolainen is that he has the potential to make an NHL roster next year.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
the way mcnabb tried to insert himself into RG III's life was cringe-worthy, so i'd be wary of Nurse being given preconceived notions about Philly as a sports town. not a deal breaker by any stretch, but somewhat wary.
- isaiah520

I agree about the McNabb RGIII situation. I almost felt embarrassed for McNabb, it was like he was trying too hard to stay relevant.

And I understand why some people would be wary given how McNabb was treated by fans during his time here in philly. I guess I just meant that more recently nurses name has been showing up ad the flyers draft pick in mock drafts with the only reasoning behind it being that McNabb is his uncle.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
What I have read about Ristolainen is that he has the potential to make an NHL roster next year.
- ravishingone


Saw the same reports, but I hope they let him play another season in Europe. Just no need to rush him if he is even their pick.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
Depends on his price and years.
- stveshdy


No sense for the Hawks to buyout Hossa this year unless they can't get under 65M. They can wait until next year to buy him out.

Anyone think Kovalchuk will be bought out next offseason. If he retires at 40, that contracts will be a disaster for Jersey.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:38 PM ET
Saw the same reports, but I hope they let him play another season in Europe. Just no need to rush him if he is even their pick.
- ob18

But he needs to he tutored by Timonen so he can be his replacement

But in all seriousness I agree, he should play one more year in Europe. He's played in SM-Liiga the past two years and was markedly better this past year, but he still needs to work on his positioninga bit.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
I agree about the McNabb RGIII situation. I almost felt embarrassed for McNabb, it was like he was trying too hard to stay relevant.

And I understand why some people would be wary given how McNabb was treated by fans during his time here in philly. I guess I just meant that more recently nurses name has been showing up ad the flyers draft pick in mock drafts with the only reasoning behind it being that McNabb is his uncle.

- fecondo

makes for a convenient story
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
makes for a convenient story
- isaiah520


I'm not a huge fan of Nurse. I don't think he has as much of an offensive upside as others in the first round.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:00 PM ET
I'm not a huge fan of Nurse. I don't think he has as much of an offensive upside as others in the first round.
- PhillySportsGuy

He doesn't. And with L Schenn and Coburn already on the team we really have no business taking him. If they want another big, physical D man it should wait til the 2nd round or later.

I have a sneaking suspicion he will either end up in EDM or Dallas though.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
I'm not a huge fan of Nurse. I don't think he has as much of an offensive upside as others in the first round.
- PhillySportsGuy

could be coby redux
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
I agree about the McNabb RGIII situation. I almost felt embarrassed for McNabb, it was like he was trying too hard to stay relevant.

And I understand why some people would be wary given how McNabb was treated by fans during his time here in philly. I guess I just meant that more recently nurses name has been showing up ad the flyers draft pick in mock drafts with the only reasoning behind it being that McNabb is his uncle.

- fecondo


If Nurse is the best defenseman available then they should take him if he isnt they shouldnt that simple
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:03 PM ET
Wow anyone who reads this and still wants the guy in town is delusional.
- edmac812


You got to admit, very suspicious how Bob started to do well once he left Philly. I have to agree that there is little to no good Philadelphia Flyers writers, I know of none outside of Bill. Don't get me started on the fans......If you go on the Flyers facebook page you see all these dumb comments about Bryz. Lose 1-0 Byz's fault, Opponent gets 10 breakaways a game Bryz's fault. Defence allows cross crease pass for onetimer goal.. Bryz's fault. I agree Bryz has not played as well as he could but last year there were not many games we lost because of him. We lost due to a no show offence or very poor Defence
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