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mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 23 @ 4:42 PM ET
He really wont, Bring back Nabby for one season to split time with Poulin & then you run with Poulin & Nilsson in 14-15

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 23 @ 4:42 PM ET
Did you see what they paid to get an unproven goalie!!!

If we are going to trade Nino... I would like it to be for a proven 1st line player to play with JT.

If Nino's attitude doesn't change, he will be back in Bridgeport.

And to be honest... do you think any other team wants a whiny little baby?

- jimmc7722

Not much... Leafs won the deal. Bernier will be a very good goalie in this league
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 23 @ 4:43 PM ET
He really wont, Bring back Nabby for one season to split time with Poulin & then you run with Poulin & Nilsson in 14-15

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Haven't seen enough out of Poulin OR Nilsson to make me feel confident. Hope that changes this coming season.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:21 PM ET
Bernier is not completely unproven, but has high potential and Leafs gave up nothing to acquire him.......
Granted, I would not have traded Nino but Snow could have worked the deal ( like a GM should ) to bring Bernier here...Snow dropped the ball on this

If the trade was lopsided or over-payment then I would of agreed on not trading for him.


Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jun 23 @ 5:38 PM ET
Bernier is not completely unproven, but has high potential and Leafs gave up nothing to acquire him.......
Granted, I would not have traded Nino but Snow could have worked the deal ( like a GM should ) to bring Bernier here...Snow dropped the ball on this

If the trade was lopsided or over-payment then I would of agreed on not trading for him.

- Ur Not Me

I heard the leafs wanted a ready backup, which they didn't think Poulin/Nilsson weren't, so they wanted something else
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:38 PM ET
Bernier is not completely unproven, but has high potential and Leafs gave up nothing to acquire him.......
Granted, I would not have traded Nino but Snow could have worked the deal ( like a GM should ) to bring Bernier here...Snow dropped the ball on this

If the trade was lopsided or over-payment then I would of agreed on not trading for him.

- Ur Not Me


If Bernier turns into a star and the Isles struggle in goal, then Snow is going to have a problem. I'll see how things play out before going crazy. If Poulin is one of the goalies this year he needs a real shot to show what he can do. Cannot have another year go by without finding out about Poulin.

Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 5:58 PM ET
I heard the leafs wanted a ready backup, which they didn't think Poulin/Nilsson weren't, so they wanted something else
- Danformo



U mean Kings????

also the Kings could easily find a NHL back up goalie thru FA on the cheap, Quick starts majority of the games anyway....

So we didn't have to offer a goalie back, is the case I'm making....
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:01 PM ET
U mean Kings????

also the Kings could easily find a NHL back up goalie thru FA on the cheap, Quick starts majority of the games anyway....

So we didn't have to offer a goalie back, is the case I'm making....

- Ur Not Me


Very interested to hear what the Isles were offering.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:06 PM ET
If Bernier turns into a star and the Isles struggle in goal, then Snow is going to have a problem. I'll see how things play out before going crazy. If Poulin is one of the goalies this year he needs a real shot to show what he can do. Cannot have another year go by without finding out about Poulin.
- ses111


I agree about seeing how things play out, and not going crazy but honestly the Leafs offered nothing and just think we have better than Frattin & Scrivens...
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:08 PM ET
Very interested to hear what the Isles were offering.
- ses111


With Snow's thinking....probably picks


that's all he trades
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:11 PM ET
I agree about seeing how things play out, and not going crazy but honestly the Leafs offered nothing and just think we have better than Frattin & Scrivens...
- Ur Not Me


I have no doubt the Isles could have done better. I do think it's very important for Snow to make some sort of impact move this offseason, not only for the team but for himself. Brooklyn is right around the corner and the pressure is going to go up.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:20 PM ET
I have no doubt the Isles could have done better. I do think it's very important for Snow to make some sort of impact move this offseason, not only for the team but for himself. Brooklyn is right around the corner and the pressure is going to go up.
- ses111



Funny feeling that Snow will do nothing of any impact unless it comes on the cheap.
Only bc Wang will not add payroll until they leave to Brooklyn, so until then, expect the cap floor until the move.....
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:29 PM ET
Funny feeling that Snow will do nothing of any impact unless it comes on the cheap.
Only bc Wang will not add payroll until they leave to Brooklyn, so until then, expect the cap floor until the move.....

- Ur Not Me


You are probably right. I doubt Snow get a long time once the Isles hit Brooklyn though. He better be ready to make deals and have a top team on the ice.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:30 PM ET
With Snow's thinking....probably picks


that's all he trades

- Ur Not Me


I would have given up Petrov and picks. No Nino or Nelson.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
I would have given up Petrov and picks. No Nino or Nelson.
- ses111


The only problem Isles have is they really don't have fringe prospects in system, we have high potential prospects.

If Persson or Kabanov was healthy and had a good yr, they would be the fringe prospects, but neither was healthy enough to produce....
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
Isles weren't going to give up big assets for a goalie who had played a whopping 62 games in five years when they believe Nilsson has a higher ceiling. We had no need to get caught up in that nonsense

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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:43 PM ET
Isles weren't going to give up big assets for a goalie who had played a whopping 62 games in five years when they believe Nilsson has a higher ceiling. We had no need to get caught up in that nonsense

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17


I agree about giving no big prospects for Bernier. Nilsson and Poulin can be the answer. This has to be the year we at least find out about one of them. Cannot have another year of Nabby playing most of the games.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:43 PM ET
Not much... Leafs won the deal. Bernier will be a very good goalie in this league
- mighty13duck



Kings won the deal easily... Bernier was the backup on a defensive minded team.

Put him on the ice in Toronto... his new name will be red light.

Plus the Maple Leafs already have a good goalie.

Frantin, Scriven's and a 2nd rounder trump Bernier all day long!!!
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:45 PM ET
Kings won the deal easily... Bernier was the backup on a defensive minded team.

Put him on the ice in Toronto... his new name will be red light.

Plus the Maple Leafs already have a good goalie.

Frantin, Scriven's and a 2nd rounder trump Bernier all day long!!!

- jimmc7722


No question we will find out how good Bernier is this year. Snow did the right thing not giving up big prospects for him.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 23 @ 6:51 PM ET
I agree about giving no big prospects for Bernier. Nilsson and Poulin can be the answer. This has to be the year we at least find out about one of them. Cannot have another year of Nabby playing most of the games.
- ses111

I just see no point in filling our goaltending spot with another 23-24 year old goalie prospect when we already have three in the fold. Get someone with at least a track record so we don't Go into the season with a total unknown factor in net. Poulin can show his worth in 25-40 starts and then we can see where Nilsson is.

Xxkeaner17xX
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 6:57 PM ET
I just see no point in filling our goaltending spot with another 23-24 year old goalie prospect when we already have three in the fold. Get someone with at least a track record so we don't Go into the season with a total unknown factor in net. Poulin can show his worth in 25-40 starts and then we can see where Nilsson is.

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17


Exactly right. Maybe bring in Smith. Having Poulin and Nilsson and Kosi made it easy not to overpay for Bernier. If the Isles are looking to make a splash maybe look into Bobby Ryan. Even Ryan though I'm not looking to give up big prospects unless he is willing to sign an extension.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 23 @ 6:59 PM ET
I just see no point in filling our goaltending spot with another 23-24 year old goalie prospect when we already have three in the fold. Get someone with at least a track record so we don't Go into the season with a total unknown factor in net. Poulin can show his worth in 25-40 starts and then we can see where Nilsson is.

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17

Yeah I agree. And by doing that it shows they have no confidence with Poulin or Nilsson.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 23 @ 7:06 PM ET
From what I hear, the Isles believe that Nilsson will ultimately be the franchise goaltender. For this reason, they're being very careful with his developmemt and will allow Poulin to prove he deserves to hang around after this year before turning the reins over to Anders.

Despite reports from such trusted sources as Ek, I don't believe Bernier was ever even a consideration.

Xxkeaner17xX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:14 PM ET
Haven't seen enough out of Poulin OR Nilsson to make me feel confident. Hope that changes this coming season.
- Mancalledsting

If Snow was that confident he wouldn't have been talking to LA. Either he doesn't think they're ready or he isn't confident in one or both of their abilities. I can see him trying to sign someone else. With that said I could see him standing pat with what we have too. Just not getting the feeling he's confident in both Nilsson and poulin.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:14 PM ET
Haven't seen enough out of Poulin OR Nilsson to make me feel confident. Hope that changes this coming season.
- Mancalledsting

If Snow was that confident he wouldn't have been talking to LA. Either he doesn't think they're ready or he isn't confident in one or both of their abilities. I can see him trying to sign someone else. With that said I could also see him standing pat with what we have too. Just not getting the feeling he's confident in both Nilsson and poulin.
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