Ugh. Why? They better not cough up the farm or any part of the pasture.
- weirdoh

I don't get it either. Reimer is a good starter. He's proven it. He had some isses with the concussion but looks good again. Bernier is all hype IMO. I don't see him being a starter.

Bernier is better.
- JDBrickz

Proof?

According to a solid source (weirdoh), it's Phaneuf and Kulemin for Bernier and a 5th round pick.
- Symba007

I hear the sticking point is the 5th round pick.

Proof?
- Iggysbff

He meant Bernier is better than Bishop.

Pannaccio is a stooge for Comcast.

Not sure what Philly's angle is on this, but I'm willing to bet there is one.
- Atomic Wedgie

Philly is the only team more oft-mentioned than the Leafs.

Yes! and Sparkes looks like he could be a diamond in the rough.... Or he could be Justin Pogge
- steve362

Mark my words - Sparks is the former and won't be the latter. Garret is a good guy too. Humble, fiercely focused, and competitive. Wish he was in our system....

I don't get it either. Reimer is a good starter. He's proven it. He had some isses with the concussion but looks good again. Bernier is all hype IMO. I don't see him being a starter.
- Iggysbff

Fact is, he has not yet proven anything.. Reimer's been injured the past two seasons. It comes down to how much faith do the Leafs have in Scrivens

I don't get it either. Reimer is a good starter. He's proven it. He had some isses with the concussion but looks good again. Bernier is all hype IMO. I don't see him being a starter.
- Iggysbff

Reimer is coming your way in another deal and the Leafs need to replace him.

Reimer is coming your way in another deal and the Leafs need to replace him.
- Woderwick

They have Dubnyk, who like Reimer constantly gets undervalued despite putting up numbers.

bernier hype?

hes behind quick - that is all!

Fact is, he has not yet proven anything.. Reimer's been injured the past two seasons. It comes down to how much faith do the Leafs have in Scrivens
- PatC80

He's proven a hell of a lot more than Bernier.

Reimer is coming your way in another deal and the Leafs need to replace him.
- Woderwick

We're good with our Starter thanks. If anyone wants to send Pietrangelo, McDonagh, Carlson our way then great!

But no we aren't sending any of the super kids the other way in the deal.

According to a solid source (weirdoh), it's Phaneuf and Kulemin for Bernier and a 5th round pick.
- Symba007

That's what makes it so believable.

They have Dubnyk, who like Reimer constantly gets undervalued despite putting up numbers.
- mykokes

This.

Even if we blow our 1st and some mid-level prospect i'm alright with it.
Bernier is better than Reimer. Reimer is a good goalie but he's a 15-20 Goalie at best. Bernier has more up-side.

Plus even if we acquire Bernier and Reimer turns out to be a superstar, then we have two amazing goalies that are 24-25. which is a good problem to have.
- JDBrickz

Guess you didn't watch hockey last year eh?

they must be tradng scrivens because this makes no sence to give up thatgmuch for a unproven goalie

i personally do not think the leafs will get bernier.

- Iggysbff

You guys are a couple of good D men shy of being scary good for years to come.

- Iggysbff

Sorry but Dubnyk sucks iggy. He plays behind a defense better than Boston's and can't even get in the playoffs.

They have Dubnyk, who like Reimer constantly gets undervalued despite putting up numbers.
- mykokes

Grass is greener scenario...

So Schneider after 98 games with one of the best teams in the league, winning Presidents trophies has a 927 sv. Pct.

Reimer, in 105 games with the team with the longest playoff drought in the league, until last year has a 915 sv. % and that includes playing half a season after a concussion.

Don't the Leafs have bigger holes to fill?

Toronto Star, Kevin McGran more specifically said the offer by Nonis is what L.A wanted last year.. Scrivens and Frattin for Bernier
- PatC80

Link?

Mike Augello: Report: Leafs Step Up Offer For Bernier
- mikeinbuffalo

I have a sneaking suspicion that this off-season is going to be a lot more disappointing than most Leafs fans had in mind.

I don't mind parting with the first rounder, but I'd be more inclined to spend it or literally every other position.

i personally do not think the leafs will get bernier.
- big_dion

I personally don't even understand the interest, especially not at the cost of our first+.

Can't they find some cheap vet to backup Reimer?

This is all you need to know about Reimer.....over the past 3 years the Leafs record
with: 53-32-14 ..... a 99 point team
without: 45-56-12.......a 74 point team.