Well Reimer didn't really have they playoffs management hoped for. His rebounds where god offal. Yes it was his first crack at it but still i think that's why this option is being looked at.
- jake24242

He had a .923 save percentage in the playoffs

- Flyfreaky

That team wins a cup right?

As as Sabres fan, I'm not the biggest Leafs fan, as you can imagine. I do however like when the Leafs are good. I don't understand how trading a ton of assets for Bernier when Reimer was pretty good last year helps the team.

Hell, the last time the Leafs gave up on a goalie too soon they got Pogge for 1/3 of a season and the other guy is in the cup finals now. I really hope Nonnis doesn't get Bernier. You guys deserve better!
- FIREonICE

Did that just happen?...

That team wins a cup right?
- steve362

I'm sure they'd figure out how to (frank) it up...

I'm sure they'd figure out how to (frank) it up...
- Flyfreaky

Well Reimer didn't really have they playoffs management hoped for. His rebounds where god offal. Yes it was his first crack at it but still i think that's why this option is being looked at.
- jake24242

... What?

- steve362

Sorry Bro, both track records aren't that great...

Bernier may very well be traded to the Leafs, but I'm kind of wondering if the Kings are the ones leaking out that Toronto is upping the offer and all the serious interest to drive up the price for the Flyers. I understand that Lombardi is holding out for the best deal, but it seems reasonable to think if they upped the offer so much why its not a done deal considering there is not that much time left before free agency starts. If I'm the Kings, I'd probably rather get Matt Read +, than Toronto's 1st and a prospect just because its a cheap 20-30 goal scorer I can plug right into my lineup and have a whole year to re-sign if they want. But who knows. I think he'd be a nice addition for either team, but the prices seem silly for someone unproven.

He had a .923 save percentage in the playoffs
- Zezel

Yes I didn't say he didn't have a good save percentage but he let in some bad goals at bad times and like i said it was his rebound control hell he even saved most of them after he bobled them around for abit but you do know how the game 7 OT goal was scored right?

... What?
- BetterCallSaul

Did you watch the games? Then you would know whaaaat?

Sorry Bro, both track records aren't that great...
- Flyfreaky

It would be interesting to see how they'd blow it, because the Leafs can't ever make a Final, while the Flyers have made a bunch of Finals but can't win it...I'm guessing the combined super lineup of the Philaronto Maple Flyers would shock everyone by finishing dead last...after trading their pick

Yes I didn't say he didn't have a good save percentage but he let in some bad goals at bad times and like i said it was his rebound control hell he even saved most of them after he bobled them around for abit but you do know how the game 7 OT goal was scored right?
- jake24242

He also committed multiple acts of outright larceny against Boston shooters...I get what you're saying but for me save percentage is the bottom line, if a goalie has a really good one I don't care how he gets there

Let's just combine the two teams!

Simmonds - Giroux - Kessel
van Reimsdyk - Kadri - Voracek
Lupul - B.Schenn - Read
Hartnell - McClement - Talbot

Phaneuf - Timmonen
Streit - Gardiner
L. Schenn - Franson

Bernier

Problem solved

everyone else can suck it!
- steve362

That's like 2002-03 NY Rangers salary right there.

It would be interesting to see how they'd blow it, because the Leafs can't ever make a Final, while the Flyers have made a bunch of Finals but can't win it...I'm guessing the combined super lineup of the Philaronto Maple Flyers would shock everyone by finishing dead last...after trading their pick
- Zezel

Except for the fans who saw it coming after game 1 and abandoned ship to cheer for the Avalanche.

Bernier may very well be traded to the Leafs, but I'm kind of wondering if the Kings are the ones leaking out that Toronto is upping the offer and all the serious interest to drive up the price for the Flyers. I understand that Lombardi is holding out for the best deal, but it seems reasonable to think if they upped the offer so much why its not a done deal considering there is not that much time left before free agency starts. If I'm the Kings, I'd probably rather get Matt Read +, than Toronto's 1st and a prospect just because its a cheap 20-30 goal scorer I can plug right into my lineup and have a whole year to re-sign if they want. But who knows. I think he'd be a nice addition for either team, but the prices seem silly for someone unproven.
- FlyerAdam30

I wouldn't do Matt Read since he's a UFA at the end of next season.

He also committed multiple acts of outright larceny against Boston shooters...I get what you're saying but for me save percentage is the bottom line, if a goalie has a really good one I don't care how he gets there
- Zezel

I agree but yet disagree look at one of the best save percent goalie year after year in the last idk 5-10 years. Its Voukon he has yet to win a cup and gets tossed around to different teams for one simple reason he makes some saves he shouldn't be making, just some really great ones then 1 simple glove save that a ohl goalie could save he lets in. See what im saying its not always about the % its the timely goaltending that wins you the big games. And stinker goals really let the whole team moral go to poop.

Sorry Bro, both track records aren't that great...
- Flyfreaky

Kings Insider Jon Rosen put up a blog today about Bernier's performance this season, as well as links to his player evaluation for the prior 3 seasons. Anyone interested in Bernier should check it out.

http://lakingsinsider.com...yer-evaluation-bernier-4/

I wouldn't do Matt Read since he's a UFA at the end of next season.
- tkecanuck341

Well, what If for example the Leafs are only offering draft picks and or a prospect, no NHL ready players, what would you do then? Obviously the Kings are a team thats still on the brink of winning more cups over the next couple of seasons, you'd think that adding someone like Read at least cheap for one season would be better to maximize that window. Although this is a good draft too.

Kings Insider Jon Rosen put up a blog today about Bernier's performance this season, as well as links to his player evaluation for the prior 3 seasons. Anyone interested in Bernier should check it out.

http://lakingsinsider.com...yer-evaluation-bernier-4/
- tkecanuck341

Nice, thanks dude

Kings Insider Jon Rosen put up a blog today about Bernier's performance this season, as well as links to his player evaluation for the prior 3 seasons. Anyone interested in Bernier should check it out.

http://lakingsinsider.com...yer-evaluation-bernier-4/
- tkecanuck341

That was a good read. Thanks for the link.

I agree but yet disagree look at one of the best save percent goalie year after year in the last idk 5-10 years. Its Voukon he has yet to win a cup and gets tossed around to different teams for one simple reason he makes some saves he shouldn't be making, just some really great ones then 1 simple glove save that a ohl goalie could save he lets in. See what im saying its not always about the % its the timely goaltending that wins you the big games. And stinker goals really let the whole team moral go to poop.
- jake24242

True the timely big save is crucial, but watching Reimer this year I thought he delivered that. The collapse at the end of the Bruins series was a one in a million hail mary, I don't put that on the goalie. For a guy in his first series against a team like the Bruins, on the big stage in Toronto I thought his performance was great.

Not saying Bernier isn't good, but it seems like a possible lateral move when the Leafs could really use help in other areas. Particularly if they trade their first round pick, they could use that to add a forward prospect to the system which they need.

Well, what If for example the Leafs are only offering draft picks and or a prospect, no NHL ready players, what would you do then? Obviously the Kings are a team thats still on the brink of winning more cups over the next couple of seasons, you'd think that adding someone like Read at least cheap for one season would be better to maximize that window. Although this is a good draft too.
- FlyerAdam30

I would take a 1st round pick in this draft over Read. While a 1st rounder would take longer to materialize into a NHL ready player, the potential for 7 years of a 1st round prospect is greater than what amounts to one year of a 2nd- to 3rd-line winger.

Mike Augello: Report: Leafs Step Up Offer For Bernier
- mikeinbuffalo

Just say no.

This doesn't make us better.

I've always heard nonis say repeatedly if he can upgrade the goaltending position at a reasonable price, he'll do it. That's why I think he's going after bernier. it creates good competition between reimer and bernier and will bring out the best in them.

Also to the people saying why do we need bernier when we have reimer...do you have faith in scrivens to carry the goaltending load when Reims gets a long term injury? the team was nervous as hell when scrivens was in net. having bernier gives us insurance.

I'm looking forward to having bernier on the team. having competition in net is not a bad thing people!