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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
I was thinking the same, but he has stated that he wants his role to be clarified before he signs - which is a direct consequence of Bylsma not knowing how to use him best...
- mventres

the lines would look soooo balanced with

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mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
the lines would look soooo balanced with

12-87-19
14-71-18
24-16-36

- nh4442


Agreed, but I wouldn't resign Cooke...he's a poop disturber in the locker room. I like the idea of going after Clowe, I think he would bring a lot to the table that the pens are currently missing...
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
Agreed, but I wouldn't resign Cooke...he's a poop disturber in the locker room. I like the idea of going after Clowe, I think he would bring a lot to the table that the pens are currently missing...
- mventres


I disagree. Not about Clowe. He'd fit in fine. I think Cooke is highly respected in the room. Great penalty killer and secondary scorer. I'd welcome him back.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 5:37 PM ET
Agreed, but I wouldn't resign Cooke...he's a poop disturber in the locker room. I like the idea of going after Clowe, I think he would bring a lot to the table that the pens are currently missing...
- mventres


Wouldn't resign Cooke, but would Clowe? Clowe is a retard. He takes more dumb penalties than does Neal or Malkin or even Cooke. He really doesn't bring much. Cooke is a poop disturber in the locker room? You might want to explain how you know this.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 5:39 PM ET
I think trading Neal is backwards...what do you want in return, a young power forward?? lol...just keep Neal, he's young, fits in well, signed pretty cheaply for his talent level, etc etc...doesn't make any sense to trade him.

I would consider trading Kunitz though. He's UFA at season end, but is mid-30's soon and coming off a career season...his value will never be any higher and could bring back a really nice return, plus make room to sign a guy like Clowe...if Iggy is willing to play 3rd line+PP and take a discount, I think that would be great too...

Clowe - Crosby - Dupuis
Bennett - Malkin - Neal
Jokinen - Sutter - Iginla
Adams - Vitale - ??
Glass

Letang - Despres
Martin - Orpik
Niskanen - Engelland

Vokoun
Bernier

* Assuming the Bernier deal I stated previously.

I haven't done the cap numbers but it should be very close...

- mventres


Clowe with Crosby?

You honestly want Iggy back? There is alot of yuck in this idea IMO.

So, you deal Kunitz, get rid of Fleury to keep an old and declining Iginla and bring in Bernier to play backup AGAIN? Again, alot of Yuck. This team would get bounced early in the play-offs.

Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 22 @ 5:44 PM ET
I still say go after edm and nash.. they will give more..

but I like ur thought on getting the top pick then trading down, might be able to get a 1st and second from someone.... and get more things out of a trade... but all in all I ll be happy either way, if he stays or goes... whats better for this team

- nh4442

NH, if you get the 1st pick overall, you can trade with Calgary or Buffalo for all their first round picks (3 pics each!)
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 22 @ 5:52 PM ET
Agreed, but I wouldn't resign Cooke...he's a poop disturber in the locker room. I like the idea of going after Clowe, I think he would bring a lot to the table that the pens are currently missing...
- mventres

Disagree about Cooke. He's a guy you want to keep on your roster. The only knock on him is being Matt Cooke. Referees call a lot of BS on him. Clowe would be great for this team too...but I'm afraid to say he'll be too expensive for us. I would only want Iggy back for a cheap price and if he goes through the Gary Roberts program alongside James "One Dimensional" Neal
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 22 @ 5:56 PM ET
Wouldn't resign Cooke, but would Clowe? Clowe is a retard. He takes more dumb penalties than does Neal or Malkin or even Cooke. He really doesn't bring much. Cooke is a poop disturber in the locker room? You might want to explain how you know this.
- Oneonta Penguin


Clowe was beyond putrid last year. Yuck....
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 6:00 PM ET
Clowe was beyond putrid last year. Yuck....
- madmike71


I'm baffled why someone would want to dispatch Cooke and bring in a worthless Clowe, who would cost more. Makes no sense. Clowe was beyond putrid indeed.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 22 @ 6:05 PM ET
I'm baffled why someone would want to dispatch Cooke and bring in a worthless Clowe, who would cost more. Makes no sense. Clowe was beyond putrid indeed.
- Oneonta Penguin


Not one goal with the Sharks. Only 3 with the Rags and I think 2 were against a disorganized Pens team. Hell of a contract year!
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 22 @ 6:38 PM ET
Not one goal with the Sharks. Only 3 with the Rags and I think 2 were against a disorganized Pens team. Hell of a contract year!
- madmike71

That said, I'd take him on this roster for $2M on a tryout year. Sign Iggy to a similar contract and send them all packing with Neal to Gary Rob. Let them deal with da man

I don't know what to think about Briere. Anyone interested?
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 7:02 PM ET
That said, I'd take him on this roster for $2M on a tryout year. Sign Iggy to a similar contract and send them all packing with Neal to Gary Rob. Let them deal with da man

I don't know what to think about Briere. Anyone interested?

- Orpik44


Clowe isn't worth 2 million. To me, Cooke is more valuable than Ryane Clowe would be. Why sign him for a year? I CAN'T stand bringing in fringe players on a year tryout.

Iggy for 2 million? LOL.

Pass on Briere. I have no desire to root for him. I think he'd be a waste of money.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 22 @ 7:29 PM ET
Clowe isn't worth 2 million. To me, Cooke is more valuable than Ryane Clowe would be. Why sign him for a year? I CAN'T stand bringing in fringe players on a year tryout.

Iggy for 2 million? LOL.

Pass on Briere. I have no desire to root for him. I think he'd be a waste of money.

- Oneonta Penguin

I don't think any of those guys will be paid less than $2M per. If I could bring both for $3.5-4M, together, I'd probably do it....but as I said...they need to go through training and a regimen, badly.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:06 PM ET
I don't think any of those guys will be paid less than $2M per. If I could bring both for $3.5-4M, together, I'd probably do it....but as I said...they need to go through training and a regimen, badly.
- Orpik44


How about no. Clowe has very few redeeming qualities. Iggy is on the decline.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:10 PM ET
@TIOPS_DePaoli: #Penguins getting calls on Marc Andre Fleury http://t.co/VECo5dfZWB #Wild, #Isles
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:23 PM ET
@TIOPS_DePaoli: #Penguins getting calls on Marc Andre Fleury http://t.co/VECo5dfZWB #Wild, #Isles
- nelson911

If they can move fleury for some picks and land Berber for less hit than fleury that would be huge. They would have more cash to spread amongst the other free agents and could probably keep letang. They could also afford to move niskanen for more picks and replace him via free agency.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:39 PM ET
If they can move fleury for some picks and land Berber for less hit than fleury that would be huge. They would have more cash to spread amongst the other free agents and could probably keep letang. They could also afford to move niskanen for more picks and replace him via free agency.
- Genev21

If you've got teams calling that's a good thing. If you trade within the division the price is always higher. I have no idea what I would expect from the wild in return.
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:42 PM ET
@TIOPS_DePaoli: #Penguins getting calls on Marc Andre Fleury http://t.co/VECo5dfZWB #Wild, #Isles
- nelson911

Why the hell would the Isles call about Fleury, after seeing first hand what he did in the playoffs against them? If they called it was probably only to ask if the Pens actually thought they would get something in return.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 22 @ 8:48 PM ET
Probably in the minority here but I think this series has been boring. Close, yes. Just boring
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:51 PM ET
Why the hell would the Isles call about Fleury, after seeing first hand what he did in the playoffs against them? If they called it was probably only to ask if the Pens actually thought they would get something in return.
- PensFan1103

Yea probably thinking they could pay a cheap price. Isles always have a tough time attracting free agents so they have to pull deals like this. After a short time players than seem to realize its a good organization.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:52 PM ET
Probably in the minority here but I think this series has been boring. Close, yes. Just boring
- Deadstar

I would say games 1 & 4 were very entertaining...
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
I would say games 1 & 4 were very entertaining...
- nelson911


Would be more fun if they didnt swallow their whistles. I get it. You call one you have to call it all. Its just a shame playoff hockey has devolved so much since the lockout
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
Yea probably thinking they could pay a cheap price. Isles always have a tough time attracting free agents so they have to pull deals like this. After a short time players than seem to realize its a good organization.
- nelson911

I don't think they will have that same problem now that they are moving to Brooklyn.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
Why the hell would the Isles call about Fleury, after seeing first hand what he did in the playoffs against them? If they called it was probably only to ask if the Pens actually thought they would get something in return.
- PensFan1103



Thomas won't play a single game for them. Would you trust the team behind Nabakov or Poulin? They are worse than Fleury.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
Would be more fun if they didnt swallow their whistles. I get it. You call one you have to call it all. Its just a shame playoff hockey has devolved so much since the lockout
- Deadstar

Yes they are rewarding teams with old time clutching and grabbing tactics... Teams just have to realize a way around it. Otherwise they look like Mike Gillis complaining hockey has gone this route and it's unfair. The best players just need to be the best. Crying to the refs about not enforcing the rules is the worst thing to do...
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