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KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:55 AM ET
Not saying it was. Briere had his good points and his bad points. I'm just not going to praise him like he was the Flyers Savior. I'm not happy to see him go, but I'm not sad either.
- youarewrong


el oh el, you're silly in this silly season.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
To be honest it wasn't the streaky scoring that really got to me. It was the dumb ass penalities that make Hartnell look diciplined.
- youarewrong



Briere's so small that he's more or less forced to rely on stick work to get any space in the offensive zone... hence all the o-zone/PP-killing penalties.

Whereas, Hartnell really has no excuse for a lot of the stuff he gets caught doing.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
Coburn's like Carle... fans won't realize how critical he is to the club until after he's gone.
- Tomahawk

Bah! Some of us still believe in Coburn! I was ok letting Carle walk particularly when I saw his new contract. Go ask a Lightning fan if they think he played at his pay grade last season.
Coburn didn't have a great season and we all know it. But put him with a decent partner and he'll return to form.
And besides I adore that nose!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:01 AM ET
Bah! Some of us still believe in Coburn! I was ok letting Carle walk particularly when I saw his new contract. Go ask a Lightning fan if they think he played at his pay grade last season.
Coburn didn't have a great season and we all know it. But put him with a decent partner and he'll return to form.
And besides I adore that nose!

- FlyersGrace



Can't say I was a huge Carle supporter, but I'd still take him at even money over Streit in hindsight, with age, defensive prowess and familiarity being the key selling points.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
Briere's so small that he's more or less forced to rely on stick work to get any space in the offensive zone... hence all the o-zone/PP-killing penalties.

Whereas, Hartnell really has no excuse for a lot of the stuff he gets caught doing.

- Tomahawk


Slow foot speed and excessive physical play?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
I thought I heard you mention it yesterday, maybe on the Twitter?
- BulliesPhan87

Here, but I can't use video from the office pc so couldn't illustrate.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
Slow foot speed and excessive physical play?
- jmatchett383



Hartnell's pretty fast for a big guy... a lot of it is over-zealousness, some of it is carelessness, and there are a few instances where you really question if his head is filled with cement.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
Can't say I was a huge Carle supporter, but I'd still take him at even money over Streit in hindsight, with age, defensive prowess and familiarity being the key selling points.
- Tomahawk

Hard to say Carle for 6 years and 5.5 cap hit or Streit for 4 years and a 5.25 cap hit?
A touch of a toss up.
Won't it be fun in a few years to have both Pronger and Streit on LTIR?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
he could do the commute to Newark and keep his family where they are now. its only a few hrs away
- nastyflyergirl

And he's already said he's not relocating the kids. They are happy in their school and their hockey teams/leagues. He plans to make this his home when he retires. So unless he does play for the Devils, the kids will live with their mom during the season (as they were the first half of last season, while Danny was in Germany) until Danny retires.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
Forsberg lived somewhere closer to Rittenhouse. Away from the "bro's" section of town
- TrentKlatt


Yup, you're right. I forgot about that.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
Hartnell's pretty fast for a big guy... a lot of it is over-zealousness, some of it is carelessness, and there are a few instances where you really question if his head is filled with cement.
- Tomahawk

I personally think his head is full of unicorns and razor blades. He's sometimes so inconsistent with his level headedness...
Is there a number for the Spanish Inquisition? Cuz you never know what to expect from him some games.
And apparently I should be ignored today as I am way out in left field. Can I go home yet?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
Won't it be fun in a few years to have both Pronger and Streit on LTIR?
- FlyersGrace



They should just re-sign Rathje and make it an LTIR trifecta.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
Stay at 11.
- FlyersGrace

did Homer trade the 2nd pick yet?
TrentKlatt
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.05.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
Yup, you're right. I forgot about that.
- johndewar



Yea, I only knew that because I worked at Monk's back then... would see him often
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
So moving onto Silly Season talk... Would you rather:

1. Trade Coburn, 11th overall for 5th overall.

2. Trade Coburn, 11th overall for B.Ryan and 26th overall pick.

3. Stay at 11.

- youarewrong


I'd think long and hard about Option 2, but I don't think Anaheim would do that. I like Coburn and think he is more part of the solution here than part of the problem.

I'm partial to staying at 11 and making a pick.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
Yea, I only knew that because I worked at Monk's back then... would see him often
- TrentKlatt


I like Monk's.

Now, I got beer on the brain and it's only 11am.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
And he's already said he's not relocating the kids. They are happy in their school and their hockey teams/leagues. He plans to make this his home when he retires. So unless he does play for the Devils, the kids will live with their mom during the season (as they were the first half of last season, while Danny was in Germany) until Danny retires.
- bodiva88


FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
They should just re-sign Rathje and make it an LTIR trifecta.
- Tomahawk

Do we get something cool with the tri-force?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
did Homer trade the 2nd pick yet?
- vejim

One of his assistants hid it. So no not yet. He's currently checking the broom closet for it while yelling that he can SMELL IT.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
Do we get something cool with the tri-force?

- FlyersGrace



AARP discounts?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
I like Monk's.

Now, I got beer on the brain and it's only 11am.

- johndewar

Impress us. Which beer are you really fantasizing about?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
AARP discounts?
- Tomahawk

Nice. Very Nice.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
Yup, you're right. I forgot about that.
- johndewar

JVR lived in the Rittenhouse area, too. Mimi used to see him in the 16th and Walnut Starbucks a lot. And Max lives in Pat Burrell's apt in the Lanesborough (because Pat left when it was unsellable in the down market so rented it out--it's a very odd layout, kind of only a multimillionaire bachelor pad kind of place).
TrentKlatt
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.05.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
I like Monk's.

Now, I got beer on the brain and it's only 11am.

- johndewar


Its Friday, you should have beer on the brain when you wake up
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:14 AM ET
Its Friday, you should have beer on the brain when you wake up
- TrentKlatt

lets all meet for a brew, I wonder who did Trent Klatt's hair?
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