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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

3 teams are in the running for Jonathan Bernier. Kings are going to take the best offer from Maple Leafs, Flyers or Wild. #RDS

- bradleyc4



Big advantage that the Leafs have over everybody else is that they have two promising young goalies to send back the other way... and Nonis isn't married to any of Burke's draft picks/signings.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
I was just thinking that... Idk, coming out of lockout briere was unstoppable in buffalo. I watch alot of their games. Maybe it was buffalos style. EitheR way paying that big a contract for 70 points is a killer nowadays.
- SMS4016


I remember being at the last home game in 06-07 against the Sabres and there were Buffalo fans all around us going nuts because they would have finished with the highest point total in team history. After the final horn I was like "We took that from you and in a few weeks we are going to take your best player from you too"...
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
Big advantage that the Leafs have over everybody else is that they have two promising young goalies to send back the other way... and Nonis isn't married to any of Burke's draft picks/signings.
- Tomahawk


Bernier's not even an upgrade on Reimer. Confusing.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
i didn't win
- bradleyc4



you're lying.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
you're lying.
- Don'tForgetTocchet


DAS
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
Bernier's not even an upgrade on Reimer. Confusing.
- bradleyc4



I'd think they'd be more willing to move Scrivens, but yeah, it could be Rask for Raycroft all over again.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
I would have loved to see them have more faith in what they already had in-house in terms of centers... in hindsight, a short rebuild probably would have served them better than the immediate reload path they pursued.

Same thing this summer... I'd have been ecstatic if they had eschewed Streit in favor of giving the ball to Gus and letting him run with it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gus average more minutes at ES than Streit when the season is over.

- Tomahawk


I go both ways on this debate. It's impossible to determine if Carter and Richards would have been able to take the reigns like they did without Briere. Those two didn't seem to enjoy being "the face of the franchise" when finally given the opportunity.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
DAS
- bradleyc4

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:24 PM ET
DAS
- bradleyc4



did they email you telling you that? that's freaking crazy, no way more than 18,000 people requested tickets
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:24 PM ET
did they email you telling you that? that's freaking crazy, no way more than 18,000 people requested tickets
- Don'tForgetTocchet

is it GA or assigned seats?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

3 teams are in the running for Jonathan Bernier. Kings are going to take the best offer from Maple Leafs, Flyers or Wild. #RDS

- bradleyc4


I have a bad feeling about this.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
did they email you telling you that? that's freaking crazy, no way more than 18,000 people requested tickets
- Don'tForgetTocchet


I got one saying that I didn't win, but I can go and watch it from a tent in Newark. My living room will work just fine.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:27 PM ET
Crosby and malkin both put up 100 point season, dominate games, win MVP awards. They are the exception to the rule. Most TeAMA 2nd line center isn't close in pay or point production or at least expected point production. If g sign a 8/ 50 something mil contract and only puts up 7o points I'd be pissed and disappointed. Point being top line center has to be dominate. Always has always will. Yeah their are a few exceptions out their to point at but for the most part gotta be dominating games fairly consistently for team to succeed.
- SMS4016


Crosby and Malkin are only one example. The bottom line is that you need more then one line in the NHL. And you need good players throughout. And Coaches don't decide who plays on what line, by the size of their salary. If you were expecting Briere to be a dominant player. Then I think the expectations are the problem. There aren't that many dominant players in the NHL.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
i "won" too, i think they gave them to anyone who enetered, which makes sense
- Don'tForgetTocchet



No, I didn't get them with either of my email entries but my gf did with the one entry she submitted
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
did they email you telling you that? that's freaking crazy, no way more than 18,000 people requested tickets
- Don'tForgetTocchet


yep, I didn't win but I could watch their Draft Party or some noise
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
I got one saying that I didn't win, but I can go and watch it from a tent in Newark. My living room will work just fine.
- Jimmygrazz


A small tent on a battery TV with 5 Russian guys? Thats how I like to watch my drafts.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
A small tent on a battery TV with 5 Russian guys? Thats how I like to watch my drafts.
- PhillySportsGuy


The Devils had their parade in a strip mall parking lot, and you mean to tell me they had 18,000 requests?? GFO
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:31 PM ET
I have a bad feeling about this.
- johndewar


I'm hoping that the Kings using the Flyers as a smokescreen to get someone else to up the ante.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:32 PM ET
The Devils had their parade in a strip mall parking lot, and you mean to tell me they had 18,000 requests?? GFO
- Jimmygrazz




When you say that, I picture the mall from Mallrats when they go see the topless Psychic. They call it the dirt mall.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
The Devils had their parade in a strip mall parking lot, and you mean to tell me they had 18,000 requests?? GFO
- Jimmygrazz



seems bogus
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
Bernier's not even an upgrade on Reimer. Confusing.
- bradleyc4


That's my biggest question on why the Leafs are pushing for Bernier. Reimer played well for them.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 21 @ 4:40 PM ET
That's my biggest question on why the Leafs are pushing for Bernier. Reimer played well for them.
- Jsaquella


i think toronto and minn are just upping the ante on the flyers, i say call their bluff and not bid
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
I'm hoping that the Kings using the Flyers as a smokescreen to get someone else to up the ante.
- bradleyc4


It would be much easier to form an opinion either way, if there was some kind of consensus on how Bernier is going to turn out. But that's not reality. Goalies are a crapshoot.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
i think toronto and minn are just upping the ante on the flyers, i say call their bluff and not bid
- flyerscup2011


I would agree...But I could see the Wild having legit interest.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
I remember being at the last home game in 06-07 against the Sabres and there were Buffalo fans all around us going nuts because they would have finished with the highest point total in team history. After the final horn I was like "We took that from you and in a few weeks we are going to take your best player from you too"...

- Jimmygrazz

I was at that game too. My brother was soooo pissed! Becomes they weren't going to try hard because they already had presidents trophy locked up but he was still pissed! Maybe because I taunted him all the way home to buffalo.
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