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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:16 PM ET
Homer: "We'll continue our policy of BNA... biggest name available..."


- Tomahawk


ClaudeJeffMike Girichardsarter
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
What makes you put Gauthier, Morin, and Wennberg all above Pulock?
- JAKEw1234


They will draft 5 two-way centers and a shortstop.

Pulock, if available, should be the selection at 11. There's your stab at a potential top-pairing D-man with a big shot and physical play three years down the line. In lieu of having the most expensive backline in the league with average production because they insist on overpaying for them via trade and free agency.

No better time to develop one than now - 11th pick in deep draft.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
1. MacKinnon,
2. Drouin,
3. Jones,
4. Barkov,
5. Nurse,
6. Monahan,
7. Zadorov,
8. Nichushkin,
9. Shinkaruk,
10. Domi
11. Lindholm,
12. Wennberg,
13. Horvat,
14. Morin,
15. Gauthier,
16. Pulock,
17. Erne,
18. Lazar,
19. Ristolainen,
20. Zykov.


Domi, Wennberg, Horvat, or Gauthier for the Flyers.

- Tomahawk


You are overrating Zadorov and to some extent Nurse and underrating Nichushkin. If Nichushkin was Canadian, or anything else but Russian he would be in the discussion for 1st overall.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
1. MacKinnon,
2. Drouin,
3. Jones,
4. Barkov,
5. Nurse,
6. Monahan,
7. Zadorov,
8. Nichushkin,
9. Shinkaruk,
10. Domi
11. Lindholm,
12. Wennberg,
13. Horvat,
14. Morin,
15. Gauthier,
16. Pulock,
17. Erne,
18. Lazar,
19. Ristolainen,
20. Zykov.


Domi, Wennberg, Horvat, or Gauthier for the Flyers.

- Tomahawk

I wouldnt be mad about Domi at all.. Imagine him with G and Voracek.. I think he is going to be a better Brad Marchand..

Imagine Brad Marchand, Steve Ott, and Jordan Eberle....... combined.
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 21 @ 1:18 PM ET
You are overrating Zadorov and to some extent Nurse and underrating Nichushkin. If Nichushkin was Canadian, or anything else but Russian he would be in the discussion for 1st overall.
- BiggE


Agreed.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 1:18 PM ET
What makes you put Gauthier, Morin, and Wennberg all above Pulock?
- JAKEw1234



I'm speculating that they'll be better NHL players.

Pulock I kind of see as a Darryl Sydor... integral part of an elite top-4 group, but not a carry-the-mail, tough matchups handling, top-pairing guy.

The guys I listed above him I feel have more expansive upside.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 1:22 PM ET
If you live in De, and you like micro/craft brews you have to go to 2 stones pub.
- youarewrong

I live right by it. And yep been there a lot. Problem is that it's crazy expensive. I can't go very often. And the food doesn't floor me. The beer selection is fantastic and I do like that but the price makes it an only once and awhile thing.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:23 PM ET
You are overrating Zadorov and to some extent Nurse and underrating Nichushkin. If Nichushkin was Canadian, or anything else but Russian he would be in the discussion for 1st overall.
- BiggE


Nichushkin is a much bigger gamble than any of the other top forwards. He doesn't have the stats (even when comparing to others who took the same path) that make him an almost sure thing.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 1:24 PM ET
Hockey's Future Flyers draft preview:
http://www.hockeysfuture....lyers-2013-draft-preview/

(Nice to see Gus getting props)

- Tomahawk

Interesting read but they forgot Alt...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 1:24 PM ET
You are overrating Zadorov and to some extent Nurse and underrating Nichushkin. If Nichushkin was Canadian, or anything else but Russian he would be in the discussion for 1st overall.
- BiggE



People have gotten really carried away w/ Nichushkin, especially after the careless Lindros comparisons.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
I live right by it. And yep been there a lot. Problem is that it's crazy expensive. I can't go very often. And the food doesn't floor me. The beer selection is fantastic and I do like that but the price makes it an only once and awhile thing.
- FlyersGrace


Women shouldnt have to pay for beer. Especially hockey women.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
I wouldnt be mad about Domi at all.. Imagine him with G and Voracek.. I think he is going to be a better Brad Marchand..

Imagine Brad Marchand, Steve Ott, and Jordan Eberle....... combined.

- jak521

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:26 PM ET
Interesting read but they forgot Alt...
- FlyersGrace


I was thinking the same thing. He'll never be a top pair, but he can possibly grow into a top-4 role.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 21 @ 1:26 PM ET
People have gotten really carried away w/ Nichushkin, especially after the careless Lindros comparisons.
- Tomahawk

So the Malkin comparisons are off then?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 1:26 PM ET
ClaudeJeffMike Girichardsarter
- jmatchett383


Make it happen, Homer!!
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 21 @ 1:26 PM ET
I will counter with my own perception on the top 25:

1) MacKinnon
2) Jones
3) Druoin
4) Barkov
5) Nichushkin
6) Monahan
7) Lindholm
8) Nurse
9) Shinkaruk
10) Horvat
11) Pulock
12) Domi
13) Ristolainen
14) Gauthier
15) Zadorov
16) Erne
17) Wennberg
18) Mantha
19) Mueller
20) Zykov
21) Lazar
22) Hagg
23) Hartman
24) Fucale
25) Morrissey
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:27 PM ET
Women shouldnt have to pay for beer. Especially hockey women.
- youarewrong


For every 3 beers a man buys a woman, a woman should buy him a steak.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 1:28 PM ET
I will counter with my own perception on the top 25:...
- cmr.266


1-10) not Pulock
11) Pulock
12-25) not Pulock
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
So the Malkin comparisons are off then?
- JAKEw1234



Russian factor or not, 18-year-old Malkin would go #1 in this draft year, hands down. Nichushkin is a borderline top-5 pick. He's not even the best Russian in the draft (Barkov).
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
Russian factor or not, 18-year-old Malkin would go #1 in this draft year, hands down. Nichushkin is a borderline top-5 pick. He's not even the best Russian in the draft (Barkov).
- Tomahawk


He's probably not as good of a prospect as Tarasenko, either.
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
1-10) not Pulock
11) Pulock
12-25) not Pulock

- jmatchett383


BAM! This isn't a mock draft, but my mock draft would have him at 11 to Philly. Stud.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
Homer: "We'll continue our policy of BNA... biggest name available..."


- Tomahawk



Hard to believe that as incompetent as he is, that he has kept a high level job in Pro Hockey for so long!
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:33 PM ET
ClaudeJeffMike Girichardsarter
- jmatchett383


He is a Swede right?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 1:34 PM ET
He is a Swede right?
- Lexington Flyer



ClaudeJeffMike Girichardsartersson

(Now he is)
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
ClaudeJeffMike Girichardsartersson

(Now he is)

- Tomahawk


Now, we need Bill to get in this thread and make sure we have the umlauts over the correct letters.
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