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ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
Has there ever been a team who used one goalie for the majority of the regular season and then switched right at/before the playoffs?
- jmatchett383


the 2012-2013 penguins?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
the 2012-2013 penguins?
- ChrisMS


Didn't the play Fleury for the first 4 games of the playoffs? I'm talking about having one goalie for the regular season, and one for the playoffs.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
Didn't the play Fleury for the first 4 games of the playoffs? I'm talking about having one goalie for the regular season, and one for the playoffs.
- jmatchett383


not to my knowledge... but thats not what I was suggesting... if flower is playing well at the deadline the pens should stick with him into the playoffs... but knowing that vokoun is a capable backup. if he's not playing well... explore other options at goal... people are talking about flowers value being low, but he is still a relatively young cup winning goalie with a not so terrible contract... a team in need of a goalie would be willing to gamble on that IMO
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
Has there ever been a team who used one goalie for the majority of the regular season and then switched right at/before the playoffs?
- jmatchett383



87-88 Jersey Devils. They had Bob Sauve or Alain Chevrier (can't remember which) most of the season and inserted Sean Burke when he came off of the Olympics. I know this is ancient history, but Burke helped take Jersey which had never been to the playoffs* before all the way to the conference finals.





*the franchise had been to the playoffs as the Colorado Rockies (i think)
ODalton
Joined: 08.27.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
According to these graphs....you work for the CIA.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
How about a super trade sending letang AND fleury somewhere
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
How about a super trade sending letang AND fleury somewhere
- drummer829

haha i feel like at this point that would lessen the return for letang
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
Has there ever been a team who used one goalie for the majority of the regular season and then switched right at/before the playoffs?
- jmatchett383


I think early in Osgood's career, he was the number one during the season, but they put Vernon in for the playoffs.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 5:00 PM ET
Letang for bobby Ryan Gibson and sbisa. Move fleury for a top 4 dman. Offseason done
Bluesbreaker
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 06.15.2013

Jun 20 @ 5:06 PM ET
Letang for bobby Ryan Gibson and sbisa. Move fleury for a top 4 dman. Offseason done
- jchst22

Murray's not that stupid. No one is. Gibby is ours, Sbisa and Ryan can be dealt, but it should be for Letang and a prospect or pick. Letang is pretty much a rental at this point. What you said is a terrible overpayment.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 20 @ 5:24 PM ET
Murray's not that stupid. No one is. Gibby is ours, Sbisa and Ryan can be dealt, but it should be for Letang and a prospect or pick. Letang is pretty much a rental at this point. What you said is a terrible overpayment.
- Bluesbreaker

Agreed. Personally I'd love to get Gibson from you but he seems to be untradeable. B.Ryan/L.Sbisa for K.Letang and a low prospect sounds good to me.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:27 PM ET
Agreed. Personally I'd love to get Gibson from you but he seems to be untradeable. B.Ryan/L.Sbisa for K.Letang and a low prospect sounds good to me.
- Orpik44


I personally liked the proposal someone posted earlier... Letang to Nash for #4, Forsberg, and Gill/Klein
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 20 @ 5:36 PM ET
I personally liked the proposal someone posted earlier... Letang to Nash for #4, Forsberg, and Gill/Klein
- kfinl170

Nashville is rebuilding. They should never be considered on a deal for Letang. They just traded for Forsberg, will draft Barkov with their #4. They are a team in need of offense and this trade would make little sense to them.
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

Jun 20 @ 5:52 PM ET
Walshy is gonna be pi-isssed.
- canadianpenfan





As Gunner said, I'm going through the stages of grief, it's sad that my two favorite players will be gone within 18 months of each other.

As Gunner has said to me before, don't pick Sid or Geno as my new favorite players!

One thing with MAF is they are not going to want to buy him out, a number one draft pick who is 28 cannot be washed by the buy out, the team needs something back for him.

Who is going to pick up the $5M tab on a goalie who has lost belief in his fundamentals?

We could see him back purely because of that reason, if that's the case it will be a 55-27 split between Vokoun and MAF, with #29 as the back up.


Topcheese_101
Joined: 04.25.2013

Jun 20 @ 6:18 PM ET
I watched hartzell play in the frozen four tourney and championship game.. while they got crushed it was for lack of defense, he made some great saves and his rebound control was imo a lot better then some nhl goalies...

I hope he resigns with us and gets a shot in wb/s or even as vokuns backup..

I think flower is gone for the right price..

- nh4442


You should take pucks as compensation and be happy you got something he is brutal. The right price is whoever would give you anything!
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:23 PM ET
As Gunner said, I'm going through the stages of grief, it's sad that my two favorite players will be gone within 18 months of each other.

As Gunner has said to me before, don't pick Sid or Geno as my new favorite players!

One thing with MAF is they are not going to want to buy him out, a number one draft pick who is 28 cannot be washed by the buy out, the team needs something back for him.

Who is going to pick up the $5M tab on a goalie who has lost belief in his fundamentals?

We could see him back purely because of that reason, if that's the case it will be a 55-27 split between Vokoun and MAF, with #29 as the back up.

- walshy66


Well...Gunner_Staal is not the luckiest guy either

Yeah, nobody would pick up this $5M tab right now and buying him out wouldn't be a very good option. Let's give him another chance.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:41 PM ET
I personally liked the proposal someone posted earlier... Letang to Nash for #4, Forsberg, and Gill/Klein
- kfinl170

your welcome
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:53 PM ET
Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 4m
Shero on Dupuis: "He’s gotten better as he’s gone on. Usually it works the opposite. Whatever he gets, he’ll deserve." #Penguins

Shero on where he stands: "I want to have all the information I need to make some decisions over the next 10 days." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 6m
GM Shero doesn't expect to use compliance buyout on anyone. "That’s not something we’re looking at." #Penguins

Letang, Dupuis important, but #Penguins GM Shero says he'll try to touch base in next several days w/all FAs, guys eligible for extensions.

more

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 4m
Shero on Letang: "If we go to the end of next week and he’s not signed, does that mean he’s traded? No." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 3m
More Shero on Letang: "We’ll continue to talk to them and hope to have a deal. I would like to keep him and extend him." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 2m
GM Ray Shero is not setting the June 30 draft as a deadline for deals, decisions: "The draft is just a date." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 1m
Shero said extending Malkin eased things for Letang's situation. He didn't want them both to go into next season as lame ducks. #Penguins

Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 20 @ 7:28 PM ET
Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 4m
Shero on Dupuis: "He’s gotten better as he’s gone on. Usually it works the opposite. Whatever he gets, he’ll deserve." #Penguins

Shero on where he stands: "I want to have all the information I need to make some decisions over the next 10 days." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 6m
GM Shero doesn't expect to use compliance buyout on anyone. "That’s not something we’re looking at." #Penguins

Letang, Dupuis important, but #Penguins GM Shero says he'll try to touch base in next several days w/all FAs, guys eligible for extensions.

more

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 4m
Shero on Letang: "If we go to the end of next week and he’s not signed, does that mean he’s traded? No." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 3m
More Shero on Letang: "We’ll continue to talk to them and hope to have a deal. I would like to keep him and extend him." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 2m
GM Ray Shero is not setting the June 30 draft as a deadline for deals, decisions: "The draft is just a date." #Penguins

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 1m
Shero said extending Malkin eased things for Letang's situation. He didn't want them both to go into next season as lame ducks. #Penguins

- nh4442


Nice Keep us informed, NH!
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
As Gunner said, I'm going through the stages of grief, it's sad that my two favorite players will be gone within 18 months of each other.

As Gunner has said to me before, don't pick Sid or Geno as my new favorite players!

One thing with MAF is they are not going to want to buy him out, a number one draft pick who is 28 cannot be washed by the buy out, the team needs something back for him.

Who is going to pick up the $5M tab on a goalie who has lost belief in his fundamentals?

We could see him back purely because of that reason, if that's the case it will be a 55-27 split between Vokoun and MAF, with #29 as the back up.

- walshy66


Maybe glass or Niskanen should become your new favorite players
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 20 @ 8:15 PM ET
Nice Keep us informed, NH!
- Orpik44

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 15m
Interesting re: Letang, Shero noted that NJ got nothing for UFA Parise, but Parise helped Devils get to Cup final before leaving. #Penguins

nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 20 @ 8:17 PM ET

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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jun 20 @ 8:55 PM ET
As Gunner said, I'm going through the stages of grief, it's sad that my two favorite players will be gone within 18 months of each other.

As Gunner has said to me before, don't pick Sid or Geno as my new favorite players!

One thing with MAF is they are not going to want to buy him out, a number one draft pick who is 28 cannot be washed by the buy out, the team needs something back for him.

Who is going to pick up the $5M tab on a goalie who has lost belief in his fundamentals?

We could see him back purely because of that reason, if that's the case it will be a 55-27 split between Vokoun and MAF, with #29 as the back up.

- walshy66


Unless MAF miraculously turns it around, I see him as back up next year and Vokoun up front carrying the torch. MAF 5 million salary makes him untradeable.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 20 @ 9:39 PM ET
Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 15m
Interesting re: Letang, Shero noted that NJ got nothing for UFA Parise, but Parise helped Devils get to Cup final before leaving. #Penguins

- nh4442


It was more interesting when Da Man clued you on to this.

Some in the audience need to wake the F up.

Cheers!
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:53 PM ET
so clouts blog is interesting...

#3 hemsky to nyi for nino... awesome ill get to see him play more

#6 letang for petry, their 1st and another assest... clouts mention eberle for letang.. I hope not straight up..

#10 cookes name popped up.. very interesting...

- nh4442


Petry is garbage and I'm sure the other asset is the same as Petry, garbage ... probably Arcobello or Martindale. Yuck.
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