I think the only way the #5 pick is moved is if its part of a deal where we get a pick in return. Otherwise this would make 2 years in a row that JR traded away a top 10 pick thus leading to our farm system being barren.
- ward30nhl

Totally agree. That is why I think Buffalo and Jersey would be as far down as you would be willing to move, but Carolina moving down from say 5 to 8 simply for an additional second round pick would not make sense for them, which is why any trade down would be for the first round pick of each and players going the other way.

I don't think PHO trades OEL, unless it absolutely knocks their socks off.
- BulliesPhan87

Gardnier and Kadri

I don't get the idea that the Flyers are "right up against the cap even with buyouts to Briere and Bryzgalov".

Buying out the two of them and LTIR to Pronger leaves them 9 Mil under the cap. Can use that to sign an ok back up and resign Gustafson and Gagne and still have plenty of room.

Would a package of Read, Coburn and the 11th (possibly another pick) be interesting to the canes to move the # 5 and Mcbain?

I don't get the idea that the Flyers are "right up against the cap even with buyouts to Briere and Bryzgalov".

Buying out the two of them and LTIR to Pronger leaves them 9 Mil under the cap. Can use that to sign an ok back up and resign Gustafson and Gagne and still have plenty of room.

Would a package of Read, Coburn and the 11th (possibly another pick) be interesting to the canes to move the # 5 and Mcbain?
- Hype97

Hm, that might peak my interest.

Hm, that might peak my interest.
- ward30nhl

I think the Flyers give up a lot there but they may not be able to afford Read next year with Giroux, Schenn, Couturier and Mason all up. (Shame because the guy is a work horse)

Coburn is too comfortable here needs a change of scenery to push him I think.

Gives the Canes a few players that can step in right now and help and the 11th pick isn't too shabby in this draft.

Matt, i think your Phx. trade for Yandle is the closest to being fair and also the best option! My suggestion would be to offer #5 and Mcbain for OEL! as an otpional way to go!
- randycane

Try again.

I think the Flyers give up a lot there but they may not be able to afford Read next year with Giroux, Schenn, Couturier and Mason all up. (Shame because the guy is a work horse)

Coburn is too comfortable here needs a change of scenery to push him I think.

Gives the Canes a few players that can step in right now and help and the 11th pick isn't too shabby in this draft.
- Hype97

Odds are that 11th pick wouldn't be NHL ready and could fill in well in Charlotte.

Odds are that 11th pick wouldn't be NHL ready and could fill in well in Charlotte.
- ward30nhl

If he's an overager or a Euro yes.

If the Canes trade down to 11th and Zadorov is still available, do you take him?

Odds are that 11th pick wouldn't be NHL ready and could fill in well in Charlotte.
- ward30nhl

Agreed but I don't think they'll be far off from being NHL ready. If they're eligible they may be a good call up candidate depending on who is taken.

Deal would need some tweaking from either side to get done, but it's an idea. Better than some of the blog options that's for sure.

Unless you want Mr. Glass Shoulder Meszaros

If he's an overager or a Euro yes.

If the Canes trade down to 11th and Zadorov is still available, do you take him?
- jugkope

I'd take Ristolainen if he's there.

I'd take Ristolainen if he's there.
- ward30nhl

I don't see Ristolainen dropping below 10 but who knows.

you don't want to go after Whitney with a 300-foot pole that's for sure.

I think CAR'd get more value out of Skinner for Staal. Plus the trio (or quatro whatever it's called with Jared).

Try again.
- jugkope

Yep, after reconsideration Skinner, McBain for OEL seems about right...as OEL is damn good, and the Canes really shouldn't trade their 1st rounder unless they really hit a homerun!

I don't think PHO trades OEL, unless it absolutely knocks their socks off.
- BulliesPhan87

Eberle + 7th overall +

Yep, after reconsideration Skinner, McBain for OEL seems about right...as OEL is damn good, and the Canes really shouldn't trade their 1st rounder unless they really hit a homerun!
- randycane

skinner+5th+. OEL is a stud stud stud D man. Most underrated in the league. Great contract. Great everywhere. I love OEL n I'd trade anything but Hall n RNH for him.

Edler and Bieska for Skinner and the #5 pick?

Would instantly give y'all a first paring defensive line with offense, physically and playoff cluthyness!

Eberle + 7th overall +
- TheNugeIsHuge

Would the Oilers make anything close to that deal for the RFA rights to Kevin Shattenkirk instead of OEL? If not, what would the Blues need to add to the deal or what player do you think would the Oil agree to send with the pick?

How would you feel about Coburn, 11th overall, and 2nd for the 5th overall.
- youarewrong

Why? Coburn is a top 4 defenseman, this draft is really deep so we will be getting a great talent at 11 and the same can be said for the 2nd. Also who is there at 5 that we would give up this much to get? Jones is the only player worth that haul and he will be gone by #3. Nurse, Ristolanen and Zadorov are not worth that much and if we target an offensive player, how do we improve the defense after trading Coburn and our 2nd? I would rather trade down than up.

I don't get the idea that the Flyers are "right up against the cap even with buyouts to Briere and Bryzgalov".

Buying out the two of them and LTIR to Pronger leaves them 9 Mil under the cap. Can use that to sign an ok back up and resign Gustafson and Gagne and still have plenty of room.

Would a package of Read, Coburn and the 11th (possibly another pick) be interesting to the canes to move the # 5 and Mcbain?
- Hype97

Number one they have not boughtout Bryz yet and even if we do we will have around $4M cap space (including Pronger LTIR).

So you want to trade a 26 year old top 6 wing, a top 4 defenseman (w/partial NTC) and the 11th pick (and maybe another for #5 and McBain? Your nuts. McBain would do nothing to improve the defense and who is at #5 that we want? There is no defenseman worth giving up Coby and Read that will be at #5. And if your looking at an offensive player then how do we improve the defense?

Read in all likelyhood could get us another 1st, possibly from Columbus or Calgary. Coburn had a bad year put him back on a line with Kimmo instead of having him babysit Gervais and he will rebound fine. And at the 11th pick we have our choice of whatever defensive player is left on the board Ristolanen, Zadorov or Pulock.

Number one they have not boughtout Bryz yet and even if we do we will have around $4M cap space (including Pronger LTIR).

So you want to trade a 26 year old top 6 wing, a top 4 defenseman (w/partial NTC) and the 11th pick (and maybe another for #5 and McBain? Your nuts. McBain would do nothing to improve the defense and who is at #5 that we want? There is no defenseman worth giving up Coby and Read that will be at #5. And if your looking at an offensive player then how do we improve the defense?

Read in all likelyhood could get us another 1st, possibly from Columbus or Calgary. Coburn had a bad year put him back on a line with Kimmo instead of having him babysit Gervais and he will rebound fine. And at the 11th pick we have our choice of whatever defensive player is left on the board Ristolanen, Zadorov or Pulock.
- BleedOrange23

Number one, if you run the numbers on cap geek, drop pronger briere and bryz( who im quite aware has not been bought out but thanks much for pointing the obvious out) it shows you have 9 mil available with the current roster. Obviously this wouldn't include moves you'd need to make.

Number two, I didn't say " Hey I want to make this move" I asked the Carolina fans a hypothetical question as to if that's what they think they'd be looking for. (Also meant to say other picks from both teams to balance it out, not just another pick from us. That was my mistake.)

Matt Karash: 10 targets for a top 4 defenseman
- CarolinaMatt63

how would you feel about trading pittkanen for a #2 pick and clear up some cap space (since he is always injured anyway). then with the extra cap go after both ference and schuderi.

how would you feel about trading pittkanen for a #2 pick and clear up some cap space (since he is always injured anyway). then with the extra cap go after both ference and schuderi.
- jerbear53

i meant second round

Skinner For Edler

Would the Oilers make anything close to that deal for the RFA rights to Kevin Shattenkirk instead of OEL? If not, what would the Blues need to add to the deal or what player do you think would the Oil agree to send with the pick?
- bluenatic411

no. Shattenkirk is great, but with J Schultz he'd be kind of redundant. I'd love him in EDM, but he's not worth what OEL's worth. I'd do the 7th+ for Shatt

Don't forget Kulikov.. he is being shopped or so I hear.