I think it would be Laughton and a 2nd next year considereing how much his value dropped. So I know guys are out of order, but the below would make us 2.6 million UNDER the cap, not including a Pronger LTIR.


FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Simon Gagne ($2.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Michael Raffl ($0.793m) / Ben Holmstrom ($0.600m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Alex Nichushkin ($1.000m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.001m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($3.000m)
Tim Thomas ($2.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
Buyout: Danny Briere ($0.000m)
Buyout: Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
Buried: Chris Pronger ($4.016m)
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(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,452,356; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,647,644
- youarewrong

I cant follow this AT all... and Is Alex Nichushkin a combo of Barkov and Nichushkin? How do we get him?

Part of Bryz's play has to do with the team in front of him as well as the system but he has still underperformed. He has a .905 save percentage since coming here. I didn't expect him to post the .920+ save percentage he put up a few times in Phoenix but he should AT LEAST stop 91% of the shots he faces. Closer to 91.5% would be acceptable.
- NickTheKid87

definately....he has also given up "that" goal....you know the weak one...the one at the wrong time....the momentum goal...I have a buddy that had season tickets in Pheonix and he told me at the time that the Flyers were getting a potential NHL MVP....that from watching him game in and game out, and being the main reason why the Yotes had success.....that hasn't happened here.

Bryz has stopped 2372 of 2620 shots he's faced as a Flyer (.905344 sv%). He would have to have stopped 12.2 more shots to get to .910 and 25.3 to get to .915. His GAA would drop to 2.48 and 2.34 respectively. I'd say that's completely reasonable.
- NickTheKid87

I can see Bryz signing with Anaheim, since he likes to duck alot

RE: cap hits and Flyers to be resigned

My guess for the following contracts would be:
Giroux: 8 years, 65 million, 8.125 million cap hit
Schenn: unless he puts up 30 goals and 65+ points, I think we are looking at
2 years, 5.5 million, 2.75 million cap hit
Couturier: unless he puts up 25 goals and 55+ points, I think we are looking at
2 years, 5.25 million, 2.625 million cap hit.
Read: this will be the tough one, if he gets 25 goals, 50+ points...
6 years, 27 million, 4.5 million cap hit

But Bobby Ryan isn't as much of an area of need as defense/goaltending. If we bolster out scoring by moving Coburn, that opens up a hole in the defense. With Grossmann/Meszaros unknowns due to injury, you could have a starting 6 of:

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Gustafsson
Lauridsen-Gervais

I'd like to stay away from that as much as possible. If we find out that Meszaros/Grossmann are healthy, or Lauridsen improves so much in the AHL to earn a permanent spot, then maybe you do a deal towards the TDL, or pick him up as a FA next year. I think moving one of our top 4 defensemen for another top line winger (don't we already have 2 of them, plus a 29-goal-scorer in Simmonds) is addressing a want while subtracting a need.
- jmatchett383

more and more I think we have the wrong Dmen for 'the system'. Whats the point of holding on to them if they are. The D imo needs a shake up - or an anchor like Weber, Pronger, etc wuold have been. I also don't think Ryan is just a luxury - 5 on 5 scoring was down last season and homer is looking for more size (which acquiring Ryan helps with while making the smaller Read tradable). how many games were lost when bryz played well and the flyers could not score?

am i? how many other 25 year old players have 147 goals in the NHL? He has a positive +/- almost every season fwiw. He has a physical edge when he applies it and plays a relatively disciplined game.

Coburn on the other hand is generally solid yes - a star no. Ryan is a star anyway you dice it. The 11th is the wildcard... but I'd trade a pick for a 'known' star in most scenarios.
- moylander

"Star" is a title. I'd say Coburn and Ryan are comparable in relation to their positions.

I think Shinkaruk has too much talent and the Flyers have a history at developing forwards vs. dman so I'd have to take Shinky at that spot.
- NickTheKid87

He'd be THE forward I take there. This is a great point, but logic says if you don't start getting young, high-ceiling D-men in the system, then you will always be trading assets for them or overpaying in free agency and being stuck with a cap-heavy unit back there.

Makes you wonder the difference those saves would have made in wins and losses.
- johndewar

How many otl did they have?

Of course, that doesn't mean they would have scored the next goal

RE: cap hits and Flyers to be resigned

My guess for the following contracts would be:
Giroux: 8 years, 65 million, 8.125 million cap hit
Schenn: unless he puts up 30 goals and 65+ points, I think we are looking at
2 years, 5.5 million, 2.75 million cap hit
Couturier: unless he puts up 25 goals and 55+ points, I think we are looking at
2 years, 5.25 million, 2.625 million cap hit.
Read: this will be the tough one, if he gets 25 goals, 50+ points...
6 years, 27 million, 4.5 million cap hit
- BiggE

I think those numbers are pretty fair. Not sure if Giroux gets north of $8M though. He's probably the most naturally gifted Flyers of all time (maybe Lindros), but he's only been a "premier" player for 2 years. I think 8 years @ $7.75M gets it done.

I think Shinkaruk has too much talent and the Flyers have a history at developing forwards vs. dman so I'd have to take Shinky at that spot.
- NickTheKid87

Edmonton loves that kid.....I don't think he gets by them.

definately....he has also given up "that" goal....you know the weak one...the one at the wrong time....the momentum goal...I have a buddy that had season tickets in Pheonix and he told me at the time that the Flyers were getting a potential NHL MVP....that from watching him game in and game out, and being the main reason why the Yotes had success.....that hasn't happened here.
- landros 2

I think he also trusted deeply in Tippett's system vs. Laviolette's. Bryz looks like a goalie playing with out confidence on many levels.

Pulock. Pulock. Pulock.

If I say his name 3 times, maybe he'll magically appear in a Flyers jersey.
- jmatchett383

I would love it if they took him. He's my pick. Right-handed, 101 mph shot, above average skater, can play physical, even benched 400 lbs. at the combine. The last point proves nothing, but it's impressive.

I'm with you, bud.

"Star" is a title. I'd say Coburn and Ryan are comparable in relation to their positions.
- NickTheKid87

I agree.. Are we really still on this Bobby Stevenson kick?

Edmonton loves that kid.....I don't think he gets by them.
- landros 2

Edmonton will continue drafting small-ish finesse forwards and eventually dangle their way to the Cup finals.

"Star" is a title. I'd say Coburn and Ryan are comparable in relation to their positions.
- NickTheKid87

Ryan is a first line Winger.

Coburn is a 2nd pairing Dman at best.

"Star" is a title. I'd say Coburn and Ryan are comparable in relation to their positions.
- NickTheKid87

I to think Coburn, allthough a struggle last year, is much better then some seem to think.....I mean his partner was Bruno Gervais!!!!!

He'd be THE forward I take there. This is a great point, but logic says if you don't start getting young, high-ceiling D-men in the system, then you will always be trading assets for them or overpaying in free agency and being stuck with a cap-heavy unit back there.
- cmr.266

Pulock is such a high risk, high reward prospect though. Boom or bust through and through. I would consider him for sure but someone like Shinkaruk would be impossible for me to pass up.

I would love it if they took him. He's my pick. Right-handed, 101 mph shot, above average skater, can play physical, even benched 400 lbs. at the combine. The last point proves nothing, but it's impressive.

I'm with you, bud.
- cmr.266

I read that he's just an average skater. Not a strength, but not a weakness either.

All the bells and whistles are nice, but does he possess hockey sense?

Edmonton loves that kid.....I don't think he gets by them.
- landros 2

I think Pulock (if there at 11) should be our guy. Kid has a ton of ability, and is still very new at the blue line. One hell of a player.

am i? how many other 25 year old players have 147 goals in the NHL? He has a positive +/- almost every season fwiw. He has a physical edge when he applies it and plays a relatively disciplined game.

Coburn on the other hand is generally solid yes - a star no. Ryan is a star anyway you dice it. The 11th is the wildcard... but I'd trade a pick for a 'known' star in most scenarios.
- moylander

It's an unfair comparison. A player like Coburn who is a stay at home defensive defenseman, isn't the typ of player that normally would be considered a star. No matter how well he played. Versus a goal scorer like Ryan. What has to be considered is the needs of the team.

Ryan is a first line Winger.

Coburn is a 2nd pairing Dman at best.
- moylander

So does Voracek become your second line RW? Or do we move him to a wing he's not used to playing?

Ryan is a first line Winger.

Coburn is a 2nd pairing Dman at best.
- moylander

That's not really a good way to compare them. Ryan is definitely a big offensive threat and proven 30 goal scorer but he also plays smaller than his build (like JVR) and isn't great defensively. Coburn is a good defensive defenseman who, unlike other stay at home dmen, has good mobility but lacks offensive ability. I would agree that Ryan may be better as a forward than Coburn is as a dman but only slightly.

So does Voracek become your second line RW? Or do we move him to a wing he's not used to playing?
- jmatchett383

yes. Jake and Schenn played well together last season - pair them up. Ryan can play either wing which helps.

yes. Jake and Schenn played well together last season - pair them up. Ryan can play either wing which helps.
- moylander

Great, we'll have tremendous offensive depth. And be giving up 60 shots per game.

Where do I sign up?

From this past season, he would've needed 11 more saves = .910

16 more saves = .915
- bradleyc4

Thanks. In a situation where he faced 1066 shots, not a big difference. But that also has be put in context. You also have to look at the timliness of making big saves when it's needed, in key spots.