I think it would be Laughton and a 2nd next year considereing how much his value dropped. So I know guys are out of order, but the below would make us 2.6 million UNDER the cap, not including a Pronger LTIR.


FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Simon Gagne ($2.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Michael Raffl ($0.793m) / Ben Holmstrom ($0.600m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Alex Nichushkin ($1.000m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.001m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($3.000m)
Tim Thomas ($2.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
Buyout: Danny Briere ($0.000m)
Buyout: Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
Buried: Chris Pronger ($4.016m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,452,356; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,647,644
- youarewrong

Nichushkin? You think?

I'm hoping Raffle becomes useful, hopefully soon.

I think it would be Laughton and a 2nd next year considereing how much his value dropped. So I know guys are out of order, but the below would make us 2.6 million UNDER the cap, not including a Pronger LTIR.


FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Simon Gagne ($2.500m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Michael Raffl ($0.793m) / Ben Holmstrom ($0.600m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Alex Nichushkin ($1.000m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.001m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($3.000m)
Tim Thomas ($2.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
Buyout: Danny Briere ($0.000m)
Buyout: Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
Buried: Chris Pronger ($4.016m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,452,356; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,647,644
- youarewrong

we are in trouble if Rosebud is on the 2nd line?

Speculation time. If these are the top 10 drafted, then who do you take at 11:

1) MacKinnon
2) Jones
3) Drouin
4) Barkov
5) Nichushkin
6) Monahan
7) Nurse
8) Lindholm
9) Domi
10) Horvat
11) ???

The big problem with Bryzgalov.....

"it's not you....it's me" or is it me?

with the success that Bobrovsky has had this past year....I really wonder if the lack of attention the Flyers seem to pay to their own zone (either by system or personnel) is the reason behind Bryz's average play?......this becomes a monumentel issue when deciding his fait....or if the Flyers spend more assets to aquire Bernier are we really addressing the wrong issue?

I mean seriously....Did Bob really just figure it out this year? or should Holmgren take a long hard look in the mirror?

- landros 2

It's certainly not the only factor in the results from the Flyers goaltending. The player himself deserves criticism. But it is a huge factor as far as I'm concerned. Both teams in the Finals last night were leaky in their coverages. 11 goals were scored.

The big problem with Bryzgalov.....

"it's not you....it's me" or is it me?

with the success that Bobrovsky has had this past year....I really wonder if the lack of attention the Flyers seem to pay to their own zone (either by system or personnel) is the reason behind Bryz's average play?......this becomes a monumentel issue when deciding his fait....or if the Flyers spend more assets to aquire Bernier are we really addressing the wrong issue?

I mean seriously....Did Bob really just figure it out this year? or should Holmgren take a long hard look in the mirror?

- landros 2

Part of Bryz's play has to do with the team in front of him as well as the system but he has still underperformed. He has a .905 save percentage since coming here. I didn't expect him to post the .920+ save percentage he put up a few times in Phoenix but he should AT LEAST stop 91% of the shots he faces. Closer to 91.5% would be acceptable.

It's certainly not the only factor in the results from the Flyers goaltending. The player himself deserves criticism. But it is a huge factor as far as I'm concerned. Both teams in the Finals last night were leaky in their coverages. 11 goals were scored.
- MJL

the league needs to bring back clutching and grabbing

Part of Bryz's play has to do with the team in front of him as well as the system but he has still underperformed. He has a .905 save percentage since coming here. I didn't expect him to post the .920+ save percentage he put up a few times in Phoenix but he should AT LEAST stop 91% of the shots he faces. Closer to 91.5% would be acceptable.
- NickTheKid87

If you look at the stats, how many saves versus how many goals let in. Someone who is good at math can figure out how many more saves he needed to make to get to .910 or .915. That would add some perspective.

Speculation time. If these are the top 10 drafted, then who do you take at 11:

1) MacKinnon
2) Jones
3) Drouin
4) Barkov
5) Nichushkin
6) Monahan
7) Nurse
8) Lindholm
9) Domi
10) Horvat
11) ???
- cmr.266

Shinkaruk

Speculation time. If these are the top 10 drafted, then who do you take at 11:

1) MacKinnon
2) Jones
3) Drouin
4) Barkov
5) Nichushkin
6) Monahan
7) Nurse
8) Lindholm
9) Domi
10) Horvat
11) ???
- cmr.266

Shinkaruk

It's certainly not the only factor in the results from the Flyers goaltending. The player himself deserves criticism. But it is a huge factor as far as I'm concerned. Both teams in the Finals last night were leaky in their coverages. 11 goals were scored.
- MJL

Well put. I think everyone expects more from him. Fingers should be pointed at everyone, but with that contract comes expectations to be the guy to show you are well above average.

Did we trade 12 years worth of second rounders for the next bobby and bernier yet?
- nails

I fully expect to come back to this site after a bunch of meetings today to find out Homer traded 3 years worth of draft picks, Sean Couturier, Brayden Schenn, and Matt Read for Bernier, Ryan, and Keith Yandle.

Shinkaruk
- NickTheKid87

I'd be OK with that. Not a D-man there? I'd go Pulock, and I could possibly be talked into Risto. That 41st pick can address what you don't draft unless there's a steal there.

the league needs to bring back clutching and grabbing
- vejim

Yes they do!!

/Jacques Lemaire'd

Well put. I think everyone expects more from him. Fingers should be pointed at everyone, but with that contract comes expectations to be the guy to show you are well above average.
- cmr.266

I can see Bryz going to the Devils and killing the Flyers

we are in trouble if Rosebud is on the 2nd line?
- vejim

Rosehill should be deployed sparingly and frankly, should be holding court in the Riley Cote Suite at the WFC.

I think you're grossly underrating Coburn and/or overrating Ryan.
- NickTheKid87

am i? how many other 25 year old players have 147 goals in the NHL? He has a positive +/- almost every season fwiw. He has a physical edge when he applies it and plays a relatively disciplined game.

Coburn on the other hand is generally solid yes - a star no. Ryan is a star anyway you dice it. The 11th is the wildcard... but I'd trade a pick for a 'known' star in most scenarios.

If you look at the stats, how many saves versus how many goals let in. Someone who is good at math can figure out how many more saves he needed to make to get to .910 or .915. That would add some perspective.
- MJL

From this past season, he would've needed 11 more saves = .910

16 more saves = .915

am i? how many other 25 year old players have 147 goals in the NHL? He has a positive +/- almost every season fwiw. He has a physical edge when he applies it and plays a relatively disciplined game.

Coburn on the other hand is generally solid yes - a star no. Ryan is a star anyway you dice it. The 11th is the wildcard... but I'd trade a pick for a 'known' star in most scenarios.
- moylander

Easier time replacing Coburn than attaining someone like Ryan?

From this past season, he would've needed 11 more saves = .910

16 more saves = .915
- bradleyc4

Makes you wonder the difference those saves would have made in wins and losses.

Thats the reason I truly do like the Ryan for Coby and 11. Ryan is the 'known' best player in that deal by a landslide. I also think anaheim would never accept the deal as is for the same reason.
- moylander

But Bobby Ryan isn't as much of an area of need as defense/goaltending. If we bolster out scoring by moving Coburn, that opens up a hole in the defense. With Grossmann/Meszaros unknowns due to injury, you could have a starting 6 of:

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Gustafsson
Lauridsen-Gervais

I'd like to stay away from that as much as possible. If we find out that Meszaros/Grossmann are healthy, or Lauridsen improves so much in the AHL to earn a permanent spot, then maybe you do a deal towards the TDL, or pick him up as a FA next year. I think moving one of our top 4 defensemen for another top line winger (don't we already have 2 of them, plus a 29-goal-scorer in Simmonds) is addressing a want while subtracting a need.

Speculation time. If these are the top 10 drafted, then who do you take at 11:

1) MacKinnon
2) Jones
3) Drouin
4) Barkov
5) Nichushkin
6) Monahan
7) Nurse
8) Lindholm
9) Domi
10) Horvat
11) ???
- cmr.266

Ristolainen

It's certainly not the only factor in the results from the Flyers goaltending. The player himself deserves criticism. But it is a huge factor as far as I'm concerned. Both teams in the Finals last night were leaky in their coverages. 11 goals were scored.
- MJL

oh I agree....I just think there is evidence that suggests that it won't matter who the goalie is until the Flyers address other issues.....oh and I actually hope they Buy him out....I would rather a goalie does his talking on the ice.

If you look at the stats, how many saves versus how many goals let in. Someone who is good at math can figure out how many more saves he needed to make to get to .910 or .915. That would add some perspective.
- MJL

Bryz has stopped 2372 of 2620 shots he's faced as a Flyer (.905344 sv%). He would have to have stopped 12.2 more shots to get to .910 and 25.3 to get to .915. His GAA would drop to 2.48 and 2.34 respectively. I'd say that's completely reasonable.

Speculation time. If these are the top 10 drafted, then who do you take at 11:

1) MacKinnon
2) Jones
3) Drouin
4) Barkov
5) Nichushkin
6) Monahan
7) Nurse
8) Lindholm
9) Domi
10) Horvat
11) ???
- cmr.266

Pulock. Pulock. Pulock.

If I say his name 3 times, maybe he'll magically appear in a Flyers jersey.

I'd be OK with that. Not a D-man there? I'd go Pulock, and I could possibly be talked into Risto. That 41st pick can address what you don't draft unless there's a steal there.
- cmr.266

I think Shinkaruk has too much talent and the Flyers have a history at developing forwards vs. dman so I'd have to take Shinky at that spot.