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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
Russo reports that the Wild might be in the mix dealing away Clutterbuck or Konopka.

I'd have interest in both.

LeBrun reporting the Flyers I guess are still in on Bernier, but will only buy out Bryzgalov if they have a plan B to fall back on (as we all kind of know)

I've been thinking about Vinny from Tampa if he is bought out.

- flyer_nutter

i posted earlier that dreger on NHL net still thinks bryz is CBO'd.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 9:30 PM ET
i posted earlier that dreger on NHL net still thinks bryz is CBO'd.
- isaiah520

I think it's nearly a given at this point. There will be cheaper options out there and the Flyers will pursue that. With Briere out and Pronger never going to be healthy there really is no other player worth using the buyout on.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:32 PM ET
I think it's nearly a given at this point. There will be cheaper options out there and the Flyers will pursue that. With Briere out and Pronger never going to be healthy there really is no other player worth using the buyout on.
- hereticpride

Which is not to say that using both buyouts is a requirement or necessarily a good thing for every team out there.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 9:33 PM ET
Which is not to say that using both buyouts is a requirement or necessarily a good thing for every team out there.
- bodiva88

#impatience

I dont disagree, but look at who runs this team. Bryz was brought in to solve an issue instantly. Obviously that has not been the case. I'll bet they go back to being cheap at the position.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 20 @ 9:40 PM ET
I think it's nearly a given at this point. There will be cheaper options out there and the Flyers will pursue that. With Briere out and Pronger never going to be healthy there really is no other player worth using the buyout on.
- hereticpride

as much as i like briere, he no longer fit from purely a hockey perspective. would have been nice to get something for him, but the NMC would prevent that anyway.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 9:52 PM ET
CapGeek ‏@capgeek
The #Flyers have $9.7M more in 2013-14 defense spending than any other #NHL team at the moment.


Yikes
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 20 @ 9:56 PM ET
CapGeek ‏@capgeek
The #Flyers have $9.7M more in 2013-14 defense spending than any other #NHL team at the moment.


Yikes

- moylander


Granted, that includes Pronger and a defenseman to be moved sooner than later. Be it Mez or Coburn. (at least I believe one of them will be moved)
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:57 PM ET
im still mad they didn't bring back markov after the lockout.
and for trading away Weinrich.

- the deaninator


And f*k Hitch for breaking up the "Blackhawk Down" line. Idiot.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 9:58 PM ET
You can't be serious. The 2004 playoff run was lead by Keith Primeau. He was playing a checking role and really stepped up when some of are stars couldn't. He adjusted his game when he probably wasn't the same scorer he was in years past. He wasn't meant to be a checker but he became one. He did what he had to do as a Captain for the Flyers. Solid hitter, good faceoff man, sound defensively and could chip in offensively. Probably not the best skater but I liked Keith Primeau's game a lot. I completely respect him as one of our former Captains.
- dingo8urbaby


I think what made him a special, especially in that era, as Captain, was his strong leadership...he set the tone on the ice with yeoman's work and also demanded a lot from his teammates...he wouldn't let them slack off...he held "his" players accountable. Oh, and man, that guy could fight...he didn't fight all that often, but when he did, he was usually dominant.
TonyBazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:03 PM ET
Granted, that includes Pronger and a defenseman to be moved sooner than later. Be it Mez or Coburn. (at least I believe one of them will be moved)
- MBFlyerfan


I would like to see both of them go.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:03 PM ET
CapGeek ‏@capgeek
The #Flyers have $9.7M more in 2013-14 defense spending than any other #NHL team at the moment.


Yikes

- moylander

that includes $$ for pronger of course. unless there's a productive deal out there for coby, i think that mez will be moved for a song.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:12 PM ET
bye bye booriere
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:13 PM ET
bye bye booriere
- 2Real

harsh, sir
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 20 @ 10:23 PM ET
bye bye booriere
- 2Real

Aren't you a bit of a downer?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:25 PM ET
I would like to see both of them go.
- TonyBazz


Im not understanding all the Coburn hate.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 20 @ 10:26 PM ET
Unless the #11 pick is traded for a first line two way stud dman or to move up they have to keep the pick. I would consider trading down for 2 first round picks.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:27 PM ET
Im not understanding all the Coburn hate.
- MBFlyerfan

i think he bounces back next year

if he's paired with streit i think it'll be good for both of them. let coburn focus on defense and while streit starts the breakout
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:30 PM ET
Unless the #11 pick is traded for a first line two way stud dman or to move up they have to keep the pick. I would consider trading down for 2 first round picks.
- jstross

This is the Flyers we're talking about. Not gonna happen.

And the 11th isn't getting a top D man unless you include someone like B Schenn in the trade.

Here's an idea. Every top D man we chase from the 29 other teams was drafted at some point. How about we use the 11th to draft our own?

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:33 PM ET
i think he bounces back next year

if he's paired with streit i think it'll be good for both of them. let coburn focus on defense and while streit starts the breakout

- Crimsoninja


I agree, wholeheartedly.

I think that Coburn is the ideal partner for Streit. If Meszaros was healthy, maybe I;d agree with a Coburn move...but I just have no confidence in Mesz staying healthy
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:34 PM ET
I agree, wholeheartedly.

I think that Coburn is the ideal partner for Streit. If Meszaros was healthy, maybe I;d agree with a Coburn move...but I just have no confidence in Mesz staying healthy

- Jsaquella

that article you posted a few days ago was good

really made it clear that a good deal of Streit's struggles last year came as a result of him having to prop up a sub-par partner.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 20 @ 10:34 PM ET
This is the Flyers we're talking about. Not gonna happen.

And the 11th isn't getting a top D man unless you include someone like B Schenn in the trade.

Here's an idea. Every top D man we chase from the 29 other teams was drafted at some point. How about we use the 11th to draft our own?

- hereticpride


All for it if he's the best available player.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:36 PM ET
All for it if he's the best available player.
- jstross

I think by many people's charts it'll be hard to argue the BPA @ 10-12 isn't going to be a D man.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:37 PM ET
that article you posted a few days ago was good

really made it clear that a good deal of Streit's struggles last year came as a result of him having to prop up a sub-par partner.

- Crimsoninja


That was a good read. I do think a lot is made of his +/-, but that's such a flawed stat. Coburn bounces back, he and Streit are a nice, solid second pair. Streit will never be confused for Rod Langway, or even Kimmo Timonen. But he can be an adequate defensive guy
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 20 @ 10:39 PM ET
I think by many people's charts it'll be hard to argue the BPA @ 10-12 isn't going to be a D man.
- hereticpride


Then keep the pick. Need some top tier new blood in the minors.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 20 @ 10:41 PM ET
That was a good read. I do think a lot is made of his +/-, but that's such a flawed stat. Coburn bounces back, he and Streit are a nice, solid second pair. Streit will never be confused for Rod Langway, or even Kimmo Timonen. But he can be an adequate defensive guy
- Jsaquella


+/- is a very telling stat. You do have to make adjustments, but it's a great starting point. Give me a team with every player a plus every game and you go undefeated.
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