Alright feel free to tell me I'm out to lunch one way or another. Ganger and 7th pick for Gardiner and 21st. Am I crazy in thinking that is pretty fair?
- wendel13

yes it's fair....to a degree....but Gard is more valuable than Gag...so it's a matter of the picks and which player they want to draft...prob not a huge diff in this draft between 7th and 21st considering the depth/talent this year...and it also boils down to the scouts and their talent level....you know?...theoretically 7th is better obviously....but is it worth gardiner? gagner means nothing in the scope of things imo

yes it's fair....to a degree....but Gard is more valuable than Gag...so it's a matter of the picks and which player they want to draft...prob not a huge diff in this draft between 7th and 21st considering the depth/talent this year...and it also boils down to the scouts and their talent level....you know?...theoretically 7th is better obviously....but is it worth gardiner? gagner means nothing in the scope of things imo
- JIMI-JAMES

See my post at the end of the last page for my rationale.

imagine no autocadd and doing everything on velom with tsquares and mech pencil
- JIMI-JAMES

dont have to.. i remember drafting class in college.

man oh man that sucked.

many schools still insist on a couple semesters of hand drafting because you better understand the work you will eventually be doing

the good ol staedler mechanical pencil.. how do i loathe it

He moved plenty, and doing the splits like that is extremely athletic.


How'd Bergeron miss the shot? He got it off and hit the net.
- burn

Watch the play again, he posts his power leg, pushes but doesn't move and drops into the splits. All that work he did and he didn't move his lead toe an inch (unless I'm thinking of a different play) Bergeron had half the net open and hit Reimers foot. In the industry we call that poop luck.

I don't see being flexible as being athletic, Athleticism to me is foot speed and lateral movement/recovery. In those aspects Reimer has made strides to improve but he is still much closer to a lumbering Giggy than an active Quick.

Wake up at 7


Ok - I need to be MUCH more clear in my attempts at typing today.
- Colin Dambrauskas

so you wake up when i start? yeah.. that sounds about right lol

dont have to.. i remember drafting class in college.

man oh man that sucked.

many schools still insist on a couple semesters of hand drafting because you better understand the work you will eventually be doing

the good ol staedler mechanical pencil.. how do i loathe it
- Dozzer

so terrible. we have a guy we do work for who still hand drafts EVERYTHING.

its awful

Leafs close to landing Bernier
- senstroll

i really dont see the point in that.

also.. who is saying this?

when I was still in school and I considered doing my masters I thought - (frank) that. NOW, you almost need a masters to be ahead of the millions of BA's etc out there
- Colin Dambrauskas

In my field you really need the PhD if you want to have any control over what you research. With a masters you're just gonna be another person in the lab, with a PhD you can actually hit management level

i really dont see the point in that.

also.. who is saying this?
- Dozzer

E7

so terrible. we have a guy we do work for who still hand drafts EVERYTHING.

its awful
- dragus84

holy (frank).. really? why?

if i was an employer i would say learn cad or go elsewhere.. hand drafting is just a waste of time now. i am sure the employer would prefer the salary he is doling out to be used more effectively.

holy (frank).. really? why?

if i was an employer i would say learn cad or go elsewhere.. hand drafting is just a waste of time now. i am sure the employer would prefer the salary he is doling out to be used more effectively.
- Dozzer

he is the employer... he's a builder, custom projects.

its crazy, i can't even begin to imagine how much time he must spend on them. Add in some revisions here and there and it must be a nightmare.

Leafs close to landing Bernier
- senstroll

Makes no sense.

i really dont see the point in that.

also.. who is saying this?
- Dozzer

the internet

I BLAME YOU DOZZER

dont have to.. i remember drafting class in college.

man oh man that sucked.

many schools still insist on a couple semesters of hand drafting because you better understand the work you will eventually be doing

the good ol staedler mechanical pencil.. how do i loathe it
- Dozzer

I have a few years on you so autocadd was brand new when I was in high school..hell it wasn't even in the colleges at that point...so I loved the old way...hated mechanical drafting but absolutley loved architectural drafting...I won the senior drafting award when I graduated....7 years later I went to college and had to take 2 Autocadd courses and found them boring as hell...prob because i was trained the old way and because it wasn't architectural, it was civil engineering ie: road/sewer design....i just found that autocadd took the fun/art out of drafting....just my opinion...i know other people feel the opposite

Watch the play again, he posts his power leg, pushes but doesn't move and drops into the splits. All that work he did and he didn't move his lead toe an inch (unless I'm thinking of a different play) Bergeron had half the net open and hit Reimers foot. In the industry we call that poop luck.

I don't see being flexible as being athletic, Athleticism to me is foot speed and lateral movement/recovery. In those aspects Reimer has made strides to improve but he is still much closer to a lumbering Giggy than an active Quick.
- Jay Uller

I don't think so.

E7
- lumlums

sounds like a bad pop band's name lol

he is the employer... he's a builder, custom projects.

its crazy, i can't even begin to imagine how much time he must spend on them. Add in some revisions here and there and it must be a nightmare.
- dragus84

i wouldnt draft.. i'd find something else to do.. its horrible work doing it by hand

the internet
- senstroll

the internet says many things.. most arent true

I BLAME YOU DOZZER
- AdamFrench

sounds like home

sounds like a bad pop band's name lol
- Dozzer

are you thinking S club 7?

dont ask why they came to mind

sounds like a bad pop band's name lol
- Dozzer

Leafs close to landing Bernier
- senstroll

Source?

the internet says many things.. most arent true
- Dozzer

Including this...

I have a few years on you so autocadd was brand new when I was in high school..hell it wasn't even in the colleges at that point...so I loved the old way...hated mechanical drafting but absolutley loved architectural drafting...I won the senior drafting award when I graduated....7 years later I went to college and had to take 2 Autocadd courses and found them boring as hell...prob because i was trained the old way and because it wasn't architectural, it was civil engineering ie: road/sewer design....i just found that autocadd took the fun/art out of drafting....just my opinion...i know other people feel the opposite
- JIMI-JAMES

hey if you like staring at lines for hundreds of hours and moving the pencil so slowly while you spin it in your fingers to keep the lead from dulling on one side by all means

the nights where i had hand drafting work to do were usually the nights i got fairly drunk