Not as soon as you'd think, there are a handful of players ahead of him on the waiting list. No cutting in line!
- BulliesPhan87

Name a few. I'd love to know

I think that the return will be too high to pass up on with Letang. Plus, as you stated, the NMC is a killer.
- cranktheradio

I doubt the return would be more value than letang himself

Streit cred. It's not worth much.
- canadianpenfan

Apparently if you want to overpay, its worth north of $5m per.

Apparently if you want to overpay, its worth north of $5m per.
- Daman

i still view that as more of just an unfortunate circumstance with the state of contracts in general right now than the flyers ridiculously overpaying. granted the flyers maybe shouldnt have jumped in the water in the first place there, but they are only being guided by the same current as everyone else right now

Name a few. I'd love to know
- Orpik44

You paying me to do that research for you?

dont the pens have 13 players signed (including Letang at $3.5M) and only $7.5M left in cap space?

after Sid and Geno, arent the biggest #s: Neal (6), Fleury (5.5), Martin (5), Orpik (3.75) and Kunitz (3.75)? does at least one of them have to go to free up some space?
- i'mjustafan

16 players... Pens are just fine for cap space this year

That's the going rate apparently.

PaulMart prices without the PaulMart value!

- HopintheCordoba

actually, more than the PaulMart price.

i still view that as more of just an unfortunate circumstance with the state of contracts in general right now than the flyers ridiculously overpaying. granted the flyers maybe shouldnt have jumped in the water in the first place there, but they are only being guided by the same current as everyone else right now
- stayinthefnnet

Pretty much. If the Flyers continue to act like the Flyers, expect them to jump in first everytime.

I doubt the return would be more value than letang himself
- ChrisMS

i unfortunately think you may be right, because i just for some reason see myself being a little disappointed with the return. but you never know. if they can somehow pull off a really good return, then maybe not.

maybe not being committed to him for an 8 year 60 plus million dollar contract to him may be a blessing in disguise. dont get me wrong, id love to retain him, but that salary is a lot for a primarily offensive defenseman who actually makes the powerplay worse

i still view that as more of just an unfortunate circumstance with the state of contracts in general right now than the flyers ridiculously overpaying. granted the flyers maybe shouldnt have jumped in the water in the first place there, but they are only being guided by the same current as everyone else right now
- stayinthefnnet

Every six-eight years when the collective bargaining agreement is about the expire, owners and GMs female dog about the money being handed out to players. It's moves like Edmonton resigning Hemsky for two years at 5 million; Nill signing Gonchar for 5 million and this Streit deal /Timonen extension that is once again throwing everything out of sanity. We will have another work stoppage down the road. GM's can't help themselves.

Pretty much. If the Flyers continue to act like the Flyers, expect them to jump in first everytime.
- BulliesPhan87

If you could only be more patient........and trade the next coming of Ron Francis to get something you actually need in return (ex:Yandle).

actually, more than the PaulMart price.
- Oneonta Penguin

im not going to ever portray martins deal as a legitimate bargain, but if he can consistently play like he did this year, when you take into consideration how deals for defensemen are going to look, martin for 5 a year doesnt seem nearly as bad as it did this time last year.

Every six-eight years when the collective bargaining agreement is about the expire, owners and GMs female dog about the money being handed out to players. It's moves like Edmonton resigning Hemsky for two years at 5 million; Nill signing Gonchar for 5 million and this Streit deal /Timonen extension that is once again throwing everything out of sanity. We will have another work stoppage down the road. GM's can't help themselves.
- Oneonta Penguin

i totally agree, but right now its at the point where if one GM doesnt do it, another will. it sucks. there really isnt much room for people to be reasonable. why would a player want to sit down and haggle with someone over a fair price, when the next guy over will just throw exorbitant amounts of money at you

i unfortunately think you may be right, because i just for some reason see myself being a little disappointed with the return. but you never know. if they can somehow pull off a really good return, then maybe not.

maybe not being committed to him for an 8 year 60 plus million dollar contract to him may be a blessing in disguise. dont get me wrong, id love to retain him, but that salary is a lot for a primarily offensive defenseman who actually makes the powerplay worse
- stayinthefnnet

All great points. But I'd rather have him locked up with the CSP prob going up After this year

If you could only be more patient........and trade the next coming of Ron Francis to get something you actually need in return (ex:Yandle).
- Orpik44

Precisely! How nobody else has suggested this is beyond me!

im not going to ever portray martins deal as a legitimate bargain, but if he can consistently play like he did this year, when you take into consideration how deals for defensemen are going to look, martin for 5 a year doesnt seem nearly as bad as it did this time last year.
- stayinthefnnet

Not only he was worth the money he was being paid, he was our best d-man. Feels good to know he's signed for a couple more years. #7 and #44 were magnificent.

Every six-eight years when the collective bargaining agreement is about the expire, owners and GMs female dog about the money being handed out to players. It's moves like Edmonton resigning Hemsky for two years at 5 million; Nill signing Gonchar for 5 million and this Streit deal /Timonen extension that is once again throwing everything out of sanity. We will have another work stoppage down the road. GM's can't help themselves.
- Oneonta Penguin

How can you even say that? They had this most recent lockout to fix ALL the problems

Precisely! How nobody else has suggested this is beyond me!
- BulliesPhan87

Ironic huh? But seriously, this was a move that management should've done. Streit wouldn't be nowhere near your salary cap chart.

Not only he was worth the money he was being paid, he was our best d-man. Feels good to know he's signed for a couple more years. #7 and #44 were magnificent.
- Orpik44

i will eat a ton of crow on this one. i was crying for his head last year louder than most. however, right now, hes closer to being a part of the integral core than he is to being viewed as someone to be moved for cap reasons in my mind.

i totally agree, but right now its at the point where if one GM doesnt do it, another will. it sucks. there really isnt much room for people to be reasonable. why would a player want to sit down and haggle with someone over a fair price, when the next guy over will just throw exorbitant amounts of money at you
- stayinthefnnet

I get the GMs that have to overpay to get free agents to come play for them (Edmonton, Calgary, maybe Dallas ... you get the names), but its the same GMs that throw everything out of whack and its not the one's that have to overpay.

We will have another work stoppage down the road. Prepare yourself for it now. Actions thus far suggest it. Nothing has really changed.

If you could only be more patient........and trade the next coming of Ron Francis to get something you actually need in return (ex:Yandle).
- Orpik44

I probably feel the same about Coots as you, but enough with Yandle.

The Streit signing was ok, but it was just one move of many to happen.

I'm also sick of the goalie thing. Is every goalie that plays for the Bruins awesome, or does it have something to do w/ a guy like Chara? Five years ago, did anyone think Crawford was all that?

All great points. But I'd rather have him locked up with the CSP prob going up After this year
- ChrisMS

im still internally trying to decide if i think he is worth the money he is after. as ive stated, great player, but im not so sure

How can you even say that? They had this most recent lockout to fix ALL the problems
- BulliesPhan87

And we get to look forward to the next handful of years of reading press releases about record breaking revenue....

Only to hear the teams crying poor in advance of the next lockout.

i will eat a ton of crow on this one. i was crying for his head last year louder than most. however, right now, hes closer to being a part of the integral core than he is to being viewed as someone to be moved for cap reasons in my mind.
- stayinthefnnet

Definitely. He's our main guy on the PP inspite of Bylsma sticking to Letang at times. I wasn't calling for his head but was indifferent if he had to be traded. Now everything has changed.

How can you even say that? They had this most recent lockout to fix ALL the problems
- BulliesPhan87

it's the same old poop under a new collective bargaining agreement. I suggest next time when we have a stoppage, players shut up and don't resist. Why? Because they will get the money regardless and then some.